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I've been a avid Z user for about a year now on my silver 330i. I am happy with the results, but decided I would give the Klasse system a try on another car. Yesterday I applied 2 coats of AIO to my mom's silver GS300. That process was pretty painless, and the results were ok. Then I I applied the SG. Instead of just applying it to one panel I applied it to the whole car (like I do the Z). BIG MISTAKE. I didn't really give it but a couple of minutes to dry, but it was a MAJOR pain in the but to remove. I couldn't believe how hard I had to rub to get it off. I'm so use to the Zaino, and this was horrible. I ended up having to apply another coat of AIO just to get the SG off. Maybe I did something wrong. Maybe I applied too much. I'll never do it again though. Zaino is sooooooo much easier.
 
Without the aid of water or QD, Klasse SG is always very difficult to remove, even when applied extremely thin. Either use an MF towel that is ever so slightly damp, or use a wrung damp MF for your first pass and then immediately wipe it to a glossy shine using a second dry MF.
 
You really need to let it completely cure for at least 20 minutes, preferably longer, if you want to be able to remove it with less pain. It's old school, but works well. If you're into instant gratification and cant wait, then go with Zaino or Blackfire. Send me your bottle of SG.
 
You can wrap the Klasse SG up, put it in a bubble envelope and send it over to my house. I'll then dispose of it for you :)



But Intermezzo said it correctly. Apply Klasse SG thin like the Z, then take on mf and dampen it (run it under water then wring out really really well.) I apply Sg to the whole car and let it dry for 15-30 minutes. I take the damp MF and wipe a panel of the car until the residue is gone, then immediately follow up with the dry MF to buff to a gloss.



Jason
 
I am a first time Klasse user this past weekend and I had no problems at all. I admit that the SG can be hard to remove if it is put on thick. The damp MF towel was the way to go. Took the SG haze right off. I then followed up with a dry MF.



The results were stunning. My wife saw my red truck that was Klassed and has already asked me when I am doing her 2000 4Runner. Even she couldn't believe the reflections after only 1 coat of SG. 2 more to go..:xyxthumbs
 
You did well though....by reapplying and stripping for an easier removal. I muscled though it and it sucked. Using a damp cloth for removal helps so try that on your next coat. I don't think it has anything to do with how thin you go. I applied a really thin coat and it was still hard to remove. I was working in the sun though. My beef is that this is an older product and by now these "easy use" tips should be incorporated in the directions and on the bottle. So much for customer service.
 
Sounds like poor application, rather than poor product. But Klasse SG will certainly bite if you put too much on. I have made the same mistake, so when it says use an "extremely thin" layer on the bottle, that is what it means! Have not had a problem since I learnt that lesson. AIO is more forgiving when applying it.
 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >

<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Michael H [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Sounds like poor application, rather than poor product. But Klasse SG will certainly bite if you put too much on. I have made the same mistake, so when it says use an "extremely thin" layer on the bottle, that is what it means! Have not had a problem since I learnt that lesson. AIO is more forgiving when applying it. [/b]</blockquote>Agree 100% :up
Sorry to hear about your poor experience with Klasse SG :(
Autopians never throw away detrailing products just give it away for someone to try.
 
I have found that a cotton towel removes SG much better and easier than a MF towel after it is allowed to dry thoroughly. Just my opinion. The damp towel works well if you apply SG too heavily. You can send that bottle of SG my way if you prefer.
 
Ok guys. Maybe I overreacted. I may give it one more shot trying the damp MT as suggested. I'll only do a very small area though. :D



Thanks for the responses.
 
There is definitely a learning curve associated with Klasse SG. The wrung out MFT works wonders (ala ShowroomLincoln) for removing the product. I've also found that the applicator that works best for me is a Viper MF applicator. I spray it with a shot of QD then add small amounts of SG and wipe it on by hand. This enables me to apply really thin coats.



This past weekend I added another layer of SG to my full size crew cab long bed truck using the methods described above. It was really easy on and off and it has nearly made me forget my awful first experience with SG.



Good luck bud!
 
...................................... you didn't use it right. If you apply it THIN and let it dry for 30-40 minutes you would be able to remove it very very easily. It'll be a little harder than All In One but it will NOT be that hard.



Stinks to see people bash the product because THEY can't use it.



P.S. All I use is a cotton towel, no QD and no spray bottle.
 
hard to remove for you, means hard to remove for mother nature :xyxthumbs



try using damp towel or a spray bottle of water
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by YoSteve [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>hard to remove for you, means hard to remove for mother nature [/b]</blockquote>
Does that apply to AIO as well Steve? ;)
 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >

<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by joed1228 [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>...................................... you didn't use it right. If you apply it THIN and let it dry for 30-40 minutes you would be able to remove it very very easily. It'll be a little harder than All In One but it will NOT be that hard.

Stinks to see people bash the product because THEY can't use it.

P.S. All I use is a cotton towel, no QD and no spray bottle. [/b]</blockquote>
I agree. I used Klasse for the first time about 3 weeks ago, and had no problems. It clearly states on the directions that I got from CMA that the longer you leave the SG on, the easier it is to take off. So I did the interior and some other stuff while it dried. In all, I probably let it dry for about an hour and a half. I removed it with no problems. It was easy. Just slightly more difficult than AIO.
 
I used Klasse SG last weekend.. I applied it in the early evening around 6:30, and i let it dry until around 10 the next morning. I had absolutely no trouble removing it with a MF towel. It took me about 10-15 minutes to get the entire Pathy done. So, it ws probably that you didnt let the SG sit long enough..
 
Path Finder Guy - wow you really let it sit there :) Lucky garage people.



I only used to let it sit for 30 minutes max, I've moved it up to an hour now and don't really see how that made it easier. Have you ever tried to remove it after an hour? Give it a shot on a 1 foot by 1 foot square just to see if it is any easier ... I don't know myself thats why I'm suggesting.



If it is I will wait longer myself.
 
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