Question on Menzerna products

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lucky6025

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Hi, new to this site and just curious,i have just purchased alot of menzerna products/menzerna auto shampoo,intensive polish,final polish, finishing touch glaze,FMJ.i have always used Mequiar's in past and was satisfied but after reading about menzerna was going to try it.I usually start out by washing and drying then onto claybar and clean with 50/50 iso and water then onto compound with circular buffer and yellow foam pad clean of residue then onto polish with white foam pad and clean off then onto glaze with black foam pad and random orbital polisher and clean and then onto wax with red foam pad followed up by hand coat of liquid glass, always looks nice and lasts pretty well. just wondering what your opinions were with menzerna products and any tips you might have come across. thanks Bill
 
if you have all those menzerna products listed your process is pretty wellset. just do the same thing that you have listed but start with IP, then FPll, then FTG, and seal with FMJ.

of course if you have a swirl free finish you probably will not need IP. Just go to FPll, FTG(if you want to fill some spots) and on to FMJ.

it sounds like you are comfortable with a circular polisher. although i never have mastered the use of a circular polisher, many people have reported great results. i have read in this forum that the menzerna products work best with a rotary.

this forum has taught me that proper prep will make most products work and look very well. i like the slickness and vibrant look that FMJ delivers but i have not been very happy with the longevity of the slickness. Normally that is not a problem because i do something to my vehicle often. thus negating any durability problems.
 
Welcome to DC

Though I've never used any of the Meg's polishes, I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results you get from IP & FPII, especially with a rotary. They will leave the surface squeaky clean & ready for FTG which will cosmetically hide any minor imperfections that won't 100% buff out.

FMJ is the slickest LSP that I've used thus far, at least comparible to UPP. Applying it couldn't be easier & removing residue with MF towel is like buffing air .... honestly. 1st layer I did with a PC & a white LC pad (FMJ will permanently stain a white pad), 2nd layer I did by hand with a MF pillow-type applicator.

Make sure the surface is completely dry 'cause if a dribble of water sneaks out of a door handle or from behind some trim, the FMJ will smear. Toss that applicator in the "to be washed" pail, grab another dry applicator, and go over the smeared area with more FMJ.

For some reason, the tight tall water beads go away quickly in 2 - 3 weeks and the beads will be in odd shapes & look like broken egg yokes .... weird but at least it's still beading.

I didn't find any real visual benefit topping with s100, so I would just continue to layer on some more FMJ or try some of the new Menzerna High Gloss Acrylic Shield. I bought this new product but have not had a chance to try it but, first break in the weather, I'm there.
 
Sounds like a winning process. You will love the Menzerna line. I especially love the "squeak" when you polish. I have never had another product that makes a sqeaking sound when you apply your polish.
 
lucky,

Another fan of the FP II here........ excellent stuff! I don't think you'll be disappointed! :bigups
 
Boss_429 said:
lucky,

Another fan of the FP II here........ excellent stuff! I don't think you'll be disappointed! :bigups
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Hi Boss, you should try the PO85RD......Incredible!!!!! ;)
 
jgv said:
Hi Boss, you should try the PO85RD......Incredible!!!!! ;)
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Hey jgv,

Great to hear from you!

Is the PO85RD the machine finishing polish? I've heard some great things about it. Fill me in?
 
The PO85RD is the best fine polish I've used till now. Either by rotary or orbital, if you remove defects with IP and follow with the FF (PO85RD = Final Finish) you'll get such a great finisih you'll be afraid to put anything on top that might alter that finish. It's abrasives are so thin, and the product is so easy to use that you won't have problems using by hand :bigups
 
Thanks Guys, still to much snow on ground here to do any detailing
can't see spending 8hrs or better just to have it ruined in minutes.
Going crazy waiting, like kid at Christmas being told you can open it
but don't use it till later LOL.Has anyone here used Liqui-Clay by Glare
am curious, sounds good.Plus have read in other posts people getting
porter cable 7336 or 7424 at Lowes and checked into it and Lowes
must have stopped carrying it because no listing for it.Wanted to get
one for a friend and price sounded good, cheapest I can find is 120.00
free shipping on-line. Well sit and wait for spring to come LOL.
 
jgv said:
The PO85RD is the best fine polish I've used till now. Either by rotary or orbital, if you remove defects with IP and follow with the FF (PO85RD = Final Finish) you'll get such a great finisih you'll be afraid to put anything on top that might alter that finish. It's abrasives are so thin, and the product is so easy to use that you won't have problems using by hand :bigups
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Thanks jgv,

I have a very "special" detail that I promised I would do this summer. It involves polishing a vehicle that has a custom single stage paint job with multiple coats of Glacier White Acrylic Urethane Enamel............ it's like trying to get scratches out of Marble! :D

Anyhow, I've detailed this vehicle before and managed to find a pad/product combo that will "cut & level" the paint (not easy). However, the hazing left behind is sometimes as bad if not worse. Now, I know that the Menzerna PO85RD was designed specifically with the new German ceramic clear coats in mind, but I just may give it a try on this single stage paint.

Thanks again.

lucky,

Sorry to de-rail your thread there a bit. As you can see, Menzerna makes fine polishes.
 
lucky6025 said:
Thanks Guys, still to much snow on ground here to do any detailing
can't see spending 8hrs or better just to have it ruined in minutes.
Going crazy waiting, like kid at Christmas being told you can open it
but don't use it till later LOL.Has anyone here used Liqui-Clay by Glare
am curious, sounds good.Plus have read in other posts people getting
porter cable 7336 or 7424 at Lowes and checked into it and Lowes
must have stopped carrying it because no listing for it.Wanted to get
one for a friend and price sounded good, cheapest I can find is 120.00
free shipping on-line. Well sit and wait for spring to come LOL.
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i believe that Alex Ruiz did a review on the product. he was kind of on the fence about it. used it and got results but wanted to get more information from the manufacturer about the product. it sure peaked my interest. i hope to hear more.
 
Lowes still has the PC, I picked one up a couple days ago. It's listed as as sander, not a polisher. Picked it up for $96 out the door with a 10% off coupon.
 
jgv said:
The PO85RD is the best fine polish I've used till now. Either by rotary or orbital, if you remove defects with IP and follow with the FF (PO85RD = Final Finish) you'll get such a great finisih you'll be afraid to put anything on top that might alter that finish. It's abrasives are so thin, and the product is so easy to use that you won't have problems using by hand :bigups
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very pricy, 'souveran' of polish?! :-p . If I remembered correctly, you did mention it costs round $14 in your country, maybe someone can bring it in from there instead of MenzernaUSA?? ;) :kneel
 
Just a Thank You for those that said Lowes carries pc7336. I had called Lowes and asked if 7336 or 7424 sander/polisher was in stock and Manager
said store did not carry those models could special order.After reading your posts I made the trip to the store, 40 miles each way and there were 4 (7336) sitting on the shelf, $97.00 as stated in here, plus i had printed out 10% discount off internet. Machine wasn't for me i have one but hate to lend it out, have done so in past and gotten things back with cords ruined or a mess or pads all chewed up, so neighbor said he wanted on and good guy so got money from him and picked it up.Just goes to show can't depend on store employes. Thanks again and keep up the good work
 
Hey HD Nice Job, alot of work isn't it LOL, but the results are well worth it. Couple of questions: first did you clay the car after washing and drying,if not that could be one of your problems, i have noticed this is a very important step to getting a perfect finish. Second did you use a PC 7424 or 7336 on all your steps, being experienced at this for many years a circular buffer makes short work of lite compounding after the clay but for the beginer it is best to stick to the orbital and just work alittle longer, plus when you were done with the compounding did you wipe entire car down with 50%water50%ISO alcohol this step cleans all residue left behind and the compounding or intensive polish (menzerna) I prefer yellow form pad start at 3 and if not satisfied increase speed and don't let the product dry out, buff it and then wipe off with micro fiber and look at results and if not satisfied more product and higher speed then i move onto polish with white pad and same steps as before when satisfied move onto glaze with black pad and when satisfied move onto wax with red pad. I have always gotten good results but never tried menzerna yet have my order but still have snow on ground and way to cold to be playing. But you did a GREAT JOB
 
Menzerna P085RD is one crazy finishing polish. I'm just getting my feet wet with it. I've experamented with the PC, Cyclo and DW849.

Here's what I've found: (Reminder, I'm still new to this polish),

There is a significant difference with the rotary. IMO this is a rotary only product.

The Cyclo makes an improvement when comparing to FPII, but the rotary & a polishing pad will blow you away. I can see every little dimple where a stone has hit the hood, but not chipped the paint. The clarity is really amazing. If I had a mint garage queen this would be in my polish arsenal. Think of Natty's as a polish -super clear.

Personally, I can't tell much of any improvement over FPII when using the PC.

It's kind of difficult to break down the polish with the cyclo & PC. With the rotary set between 1500-1800 RPM's it will disappear in a few quick passes.

32oz. will last you A LONG time, because you apply it sparingly. I prime the pad with S&W (very light mist), and a few dabs of polish. Start out at 1000, and move the dial up after a pass. Very little (or no) sling and dust.
 
Ok MGM question on po85 if you had entire line of Menzerna-power gloss/intensive polish/final polishII/finishing touch glaze/PO85 what are you eliminating or using and what pad did you try this product with.At 45.00 for 32oz's even though not using much just wondering what is the upside or downside of this new product and the vehicle you used it on how was finish before using it.Have you used all of the menzerna products in past before, just tryin to see comparrison in product line. After reading details on product i liked it but only for show cars and would have to play with it before doing any show cars to see what results came from it.Any advice would be appreciated thanks Bill.
 
IMO, P085RD eliminates the need for FPII and Finishing Touch Glaze. I've found that the rotary, using a 7.5" LC white polish pad @ 1500-1800 works the best. I keep my cars **very** clean, and I could see a noticable improvement. It eats micromarring alive (the kind caused by aggressive pads & SRM's) Sure it's expensive, but a little goes a LONG way. I apply 3-4 pea sized drops on my pad per panel. I lightly mist my pad with S&W to prime the pad. If you're planning to use it on your cars only, I'd suggesst splitting the cost with a buddy. 16oz of this polish will last a long time.
 
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