QEW vs. DP Waterless Wash

[imported_Burlyq]

http://www.autogeek.net/waterless-auto-wash.html



To start I will say that I got the DP as a sample. The reason I compared the two is because the seam to be similar products. The smell very much alike and both require no rinsing. I used it on a very dirty car with a costco terry towel, it took about 3 oz to do the whole car or about a buck or two of product. I was impressed with it, the car is spotless and I didn't use any hose.



I'm not sure if it leaves the surface sqeeky because I used it over Z2Pro, and it obviously didn't remove any pro so the surface was already slick. Someone would have to test it on a non waxed surface to decide whether or not they want to put a sealant directly over it, my impression is that you can. The surface is definetly less smooth than some other waterless washes that leave the surface oily.



Pros vs QEW:

Don't get messy, you can use wearing a suit if you own one.

You don't get a washmitt filthy like QEW always does.

You don't need a bucket or water.

You never put a dirty washmitt back on the surface.

Since the wiping of the product automatically dries it, you don't have a two step process like some people do with QEW, wash then dry.

It was a very quick process, wash your car in 5 minutes.



Cons vs QEW

Cost- QEW is about 20 cents per appl and DP is over a buck.

If a car was real dirty with crusted on mud QEW might work better, but then again a traditional wash might be better than both.

You might be able to use QEW in the same manner as DP, just mix some QEW and water and put in a spray bottle, save $.

 

[J.J.]

I personally really like the DP waterless wash (DPWW). I really like the smell ; kinda like sun tan lotion to me, which is nothing like QEW IMO. I don't think it will replace the QEW I have for those times when I need a really good wash, but I do feel I will use the product when simply removing dust.

I don't think DPWW will replace S&W. I have yet to try S&W, but I have 32 oz. of DPWW on the way. From my understanding DPWW and S&W are very similar with the exception of price; S&W being cheaper.



JJ

 

[imported_Burlyq]

From my understanding DPWW and S&W are very similar with the exception of price; S&W being cheaper.

JJ

S&W is much more, 8 bucks for only 16 oz spray bottle compared to $13 for 32oz DP. You can pay 11 bucks for the 32 oz refil but you don't get the sprayer.

 

[imported_memnuts]

Thanks for the review Burlyq. :xyxthumbs

I may give this product a trial for fun. :wavey

 

[imported_memnuts]

You can pay 11 bucks for the 32 oz refil but you don't get the sprayer.

Thanks Burly, you just saved me $2. :bow Gawd knows I have too many spray bottles and sprayers already.

 

[imported_perry]

S&W is much more, 8 bucks for only 16 oz spray bottle compared to $13 for 32oz DP. You can pay 11 bucks for the 32 oz refil but you don't get the sprayer.

$40 for a gallon of the Waterless Auto Wash. $31 for a gallon of the S&W. You can pay $13 for a 32oz of S&W with a sprayer -- same price. Perhaps your vendor of choice does not offer that option, but it is an option at poorboysworld.com. S&W is NOT "much more." After an initial small bottle to try the product, most folks will reorder the larger size if they like. In that case, S&W is actually much cheaper!



The slickness that S&W leaves behind was much greater than that of WAW when I tried the two side by side on a hood. Makes me think that S&W is slicker as it is washing, which gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. For that reason alone (the warm fuzzy feeling ) I'm sticking with S&W.



IMHO, S&W / WAW / other waterless washes not are competitors against a QEW wash. There are times when the car is too dirty for a S&W type product, but not dirty enough for a normal hose & bucket wash -- that's when I like QEW. You could use S&W / WAW as a daily or every other day clean up, but my car gets too dirty after a week of driving to use S&W.. but is just right for QEW.



As far as putting a QEW solution in a spray bottle.. http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43764

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50936

 

[imported_Burlyq]

The slickness that S&W leaves behind was much greater than that of WAW when I tried the two side by side on a hood. Makes me think that S&W is slicker as it is washing, which gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. For that reason alone (the warm fuzzy feeling ) I'm sticking with S&W.

I saw that the big size was cheaper, but if you were going to by a gallon you should go to CG's and really get it cheap, but the smaller size DP is cheaper than SW. CG slick detailer 20 bucks vs poorboys slick detailer 30 bucks.

http://chemicalguys.com/Merchant2/m...PCWCCP&Product_Code=CLY_107&Category_Code=CLY



If that is what you are looking for an oily type finish then this would be a good choice because the QEW and DP don't leave the oily finish. For me I prefer to not have a slick surface before I put my sealant on because that usually negatively effects bonding. I'm not exactly sure why we are discussion SW here, it is a different bird.

 

[chml17l]

Firstly, I don't think DP WW is intended to be a direct competitor to QEW. It more closely resembles the Poorboy's S&W in application and performance although the product name does seem to be somewhat misleading.



The first and only waterless cleaner I had ever used was PB's S&W. It remains an excellent product; however, after trying the DP WW I believe it has better lubricity and more cleaning power. Although the DP WW labels states that it contains no gloss enhancers, it certainly leaves a nice clean surface behind and it does in fact look glossy to me and not dull.



I mainly use these types of products to remove dust or spots I may have missed while washing. I tend to over-apply the PB's for fear of marring and the DP WW definitely streaks much less when over-applied and then removed. I couldn't tell any difference between the two as far as one leaving a slicker residual surface. Comparing slickness is a very subjective thing to me and I'm not quite sure why so many on the board seemed obsessed with "slickness". It has nothing to do with gloss, shine, protection, etc.



The price difference is a personal choice--to me, if DP performs better than PB the $9 is justified. If you are detailing for profit, you have to make the call based more on price because both perform well. Personally, I will be repurchasing the DP for my car.:up

 

[J.J.]

After trying the DP WW I believe it has better lubricity and more cleaning power. Although the DP WW labels states that it contains no gloss enhancers, it certainly leaves a nice clean surface behind and it does in fact look glossy to me and not dull.

I couldn't agree more. Like I said, I was very impressed with the DPWW, but I don't have anything to compare it to.



JJ

 

[imported_Burlyq]

The reason I compared the two were because I really thought whatever they use for lubricty is close to being the same thing. When I smelt the DP, I said to myself hmm smells exactly like that oily smell in QEW. I smelled something else too, but defintely smelled that unique scent of QEW.

 

[chml17l]

The reason I compared the two were because I really thought whatever they use for lubricty is close to being the same thing. When I smelt the DP, I said to myself hmm smells exactly like that oily smell in QEW. I smelled something else too, but defintely smelled that unique scent of QEW.

Not trying to disagree with your comparison. I believe a comparison/contrast between the two was a good thing on your part.

 

[Casebrius]

Someone stated in another thread that he used to use SG diluted with water as a QD. I wonder what an ounce or two of SG put in the DPWW would do. I may take a small sample of the DPWW and SG and combine them and experiment on the family truckster. This could only be used over a Synthetic LSP I would imagine.

 

[Scottwax]

I'd have to agree that the DP Waterless Wash is much closer to Poorboy's Spray and Wash than QEW.



I went over my car and my son's car earlier this week with DPs WW and it did a fine job cleaning it and my car was about dirty enough I was going to use QEW on it but I figured it would be a good test.



As you can see, the left half of the trunk is dirty, the right half already cleaned with WW using a Meguiars Supreme Shine MF towel.

Now both sides have been cleaned with WW.

I find that WW is at least as effective as S&W, both are fine products. QEW is much cheaper per use though and will clean much dirtier vehicles and WW left a light film on the windows that had a slightly oily appearance. I didn't notice it on the paint though, even on my black car in the direct sun. :nixweiss

 

[imported_Burlyq]

Aw, didn't try DPWW on windows, that would mean something is left behind, maybe something I wouldn't use if I was going to sealant. Probably good to do a dust wash or something, but that is something I do need in my ever growing setup. Does QEW ever leave film on windows? I've used QEW, but I never wash my windows with my regular washing because I always do them while my sealant is setting with dissapearing windows. That is a good way to see if residue is left behind, never thought about it before.

 

[chml17l]

Aw, didn't try DPWW on windows, that would mean something is left behind, maybe something I wouldn't use if I was going to sealant. Probably good to do a dust wash or something, but that is something I do need in my ever growing setup. Does QEW ever leave film on windows? I've used QEW, but I never wash my windows with my regular washing because I always do them while my sealant is setting with dissapearing windows. That is a good way to see if residue is left behind, never thought about it before.

Doesn't QEW also leave some sort of water repellant coating behind?

:nixweiss

Does rinsing after a QEW wash totally remove this coating or does it have to wear off?



I doubt you would want to QEW or use DPWW and then use a sealant directly over either if you want to acheive the best bond to the paint.

 

[J.J.]

Man, I'm so disappointed right now. I just received my order from Autogeek and it contained a flyer that indicated they were out of the DPWW. So instead, they sent me the DP Final Gloss Booster which contains Nuba'. Now, in normal circumstance this would be great, but in my order, I also purchased PBs S&G and QD+. I specifically did not order the S&W b/c I knew I would be getting the DPWW. I guess I should be happy it's free stuff, but damn I was looking forward to more of the DPWW.



JJ

 

[raymond_ho2002]

I saw that the big size was cheaper, but if you were going to by a gallon you should go to CG's and really get it cheap, but the smaller size DP is cheaper than SW. CG slick detailer 20 bucks vs poorboys slick detailer 30 bucks.

http://chemicalguys.com/Merchant2/m...PCWCCP&Product_Code=CLY_107&Category_Code=CLY

Whoah there, captain.. Are you suggesting that cg's clay lube performs the same function as DP's waterless wash?



edit: actually i was roaming around on the cg site and i found this: http://chemicalguys.com/Merchant2/m...PCWCCP&Product_Code=WAC_114&Category_Code=WAC





J.J.: Talk to Jason at autogeek. He moderates the autogeek forum at detailcity. By the way, i just noticed your sig.. board exams for physicians? Best of luck!

 

[J.J.]

J.J.: Talk to Jason at autogeek. He moderates the autogeek forum at detailcity. By the way, i just noticed your sig.. board exams for physicians? Best of luck!

I sent Autogeek an email expressing my disappoitment and position. I hate to post that information on the DC board and make Jason feel as though he's obligated to send me some. It just seems a little too passive aggressive IMO. But, If he does decide to send me some, I will post it over there and that will make their CS look better instead of look worse by posting the former.



Yes, the medical board exam is tomorrow and Wednesday; 8-5 both days. That's why I've been on here so much the past three weeks. I study some... get bored... Check in here.... study some... and the process has repeated itself for the past three weeks. I sent my wife and newborn back to TN to visit the family 10 days ago. I'm ready to get this test out of the way and move on with my life and detailing hobbie... LOL



JJ

 

[SpoiledMan]

....actually i was roaming around on the cg site and i found this: http://chemicalguys.com/Merchant2/m...PCWCCP&Product_Code=WAC_114&Category_Code=WAC

I just bought some of that and will give it a shot on a rather dusty car in a little bit.

 

[raymond_ho2002]

I sent Autogeek an email expressing my disappoitment and position.

I saw your post over at detail city that they resolved the problem. So what did they decide to do?

Yes, the medical board exam is tomorrow and Wednesday; 8-5 both days. That's why I've been on here so much the

Eat your wheaties before those exams! Are you specializing?