QEW or Poorboys Spray and Wipe?

WELL, some may say they're the same, and the package may make them seem the same, but I use them both and I can tell you they're not. The S&W is more like a "Heavy Duty QD" which is not a replacement for a wash. The QEW is a replacement for a wash. Recognizing that they are different products I use and love them both.



For some examples when I use both.



When washing without a spraydown or a trip to the touchless wash I use QEW, and then follow up with a QD. This negates the need for a rinsing or removing of all but residue step.



If I'm out somewhere and stop either at the high pressure bay, or the high pressure touchless wash which cleans all but the light film off of the surface I'll use S&W when I get home to remove the film and also act like a QD increasing shine.



So really they're not comparable, but both great products. Only drawback to S&W is that its somewhat expensive at $30+ a gallon.
 
IMO, many of the people here make using QEW a lot more complicated than it needs to be....but I don't have road salt to deal with so that might factor in.



2 capfuls, one gallon of water. Wipe on a section using a chenille covered foam pad, use a terry cloth towel to make the first drying pass, making sure some moisture remains for the second drying pass with a microfiber towel. Move to the next section.



Thats it. Been using it that way for since the summer of 1992 (or 1993?).



I've also used Spray and Wash and like it too, but QEW can handle dirtier vehicles. I'd have both on hand personally.
 
GoodnClean said:
WELL, some may say they're the same, and the package may make them seem the same, but I use them both and I can tell you they're not. The S&W is more like a "Heavy Duty QD" which is not a replacement for a wash. The QEW is a replacement for a wash. Recognizing that they are different products I use and love them both.



For some examples when I use both.



When washing without a spraydown or a trip to the touchless wash I use QEW, and then follow up with a QD. This negates the need for a rinsing or removing of all but residue step.



If I'm out somewhere and stop either at the high pressure bay, or the high pressure touchless wash which cleans all but the light film off of the surface I'll use S&W when I get home to remove the film and also act like a QD increasing shine.



So really they're not comparable, but both great products. Only drawback to S&W is that its somewhat expensive at $30+ a gallon.



I agree they're completely different products. IMO, S&W isn't much more than a regular QD, and there are cheaper alternatives that do the same job.
 
BW said:
IMO, S&W isn't much more than a regular QD, and there are cheaper alternatives that do the same job.



Like what? As far as I know, S&W has more cleaning action than QD's. I wonder if a more concentrated form of QEW can be used as S&W?
 
S&W does seem to have more cleaning ability than your run of the mill QD, but then again I haven't used a lot of QDs...



I've been thinking about that Bean, and in fact I think it may do a better job, S&W doesn't seem to have the dirt encapsulating effects of QEW, and a QEW solution would be a hell of a lot cheaper than the S&W.



Scott- That takes care of road salt for me as well, I do a pre-spray with a spray bottle and QEW only on the vertical panels and that probably isn't really neccisary.
 
beanbag said:
Like what? As far as I know, S&W has more cleaning action than QD's. I wonder if a more concentrated form of QEW can be used as S&W?



It's described as having more cleaning action than a QD by the people who sell it but I think that is just a bunch of hogwash.



I've tried it side by side with several QD's and there is hardly any difference at all. In fact, trying to pass off S&W as a way to 'wash' your car is about as bad as some of the bogus hype we've been fed about NXT.



Funny, in the past, Autopians scoffed at some of the crazy claims made by other companies.. (cough...Zymol.....cough). Why have we all suddenly become so impressionable?
 
I rarely ever wash my truck with soap and water. I always use S&W unless my truck is very dirty. I've used a lot of QD's and nothing comes close to the cleaning power of S&W. Keeps my truck looking wet all the time.:bow
 
GoodnClean said:
I don't sell it ;)



I'd never wash the car with it, but I do feel more comfortable using it on moderate dirt than a QD.



Oops, sorry. I hope I didn't sound like I was implying that you did. It sounds like you're using the stuff in a sensible way.
 
I think I am getting a clearer picture...



I'd never wash the car with it, but I do feel more comfortable using it on moderate dirt than a QD. [/B][/QUOTE]



What would moderate dirt really mean. Dust, running through puddles, bird stuff after driving in the rain?
 
It does work well on bird droppings. In my experience it breaks down the dirt as opposed to encapsulating it like QEW does. If you spray some on a bird bomb and watch it for a few seconds it will literally break it apart and you can just wipe it away. Poorboys also has a bird bomb remover which I have not used which is supposedly heavier duty S&W. I feel comfortable using S&W to remove road film after a touchless wash, to remove puddle splashes, if you hit a little rain squall where you have some water spotting on top of driving film S&W could handle that (these are all scenarios I wouldn't use a QD for) It actually works well on windows. Good for cleaning up bugs that you've just hit, I always carry a little bottle and an MF in the car for bird bombs and bug hits.



I would not however use S&W to clean the car after it has been driven in inclement weather or around any kind of abrasive fallout for a period of several days or a week, to me this is where the difference between QEW and S&W exists.



I really wouldn't rely on S&W to wash your car unless you get no rain and you're S&W'ing every 2 days or so. BUT, its expensive so even then you'd have to weigh the cost benefits with QEW.



I use S&W in a Zep professional spray bottle filled up to about 35 ounces. Now, there's what 130 ounces in a gallon, meaning S&W costs $.28 an ounce IF you buy it by the gallon. Now, I use between 5-10 ounces to do an entire car, be it after the touchless or if I've hit a rain squall or something, meaning it costs me $1.40-$2.80 to spray the entire car down with S&W. Now, If I did that every 2-3 days instead of washing thats $4.20 a week, $16.80 a month ASSUMING you can limit your use to 5 ounces, and I would be hard pressed to do that if the car was dirty with a week's grime.



Now, what does a gallon of QEW cost $25? Makes it $.19 an ounce, you use one ounce to wash an entire car, so one wash costs you $.16 instead of potentially $2.80. If you QEW every week, you're spending $.76 a month to wash the car.



Financially, there's no contest and really, the QEW is just as easy as S&W'ing after you've mixed it up.



When the weather gets better and I run my car through the touchless I'll tell you what, I'll mix up a spray bottle with the normal dillution of QEW and use it instead of the S&W and tell you what I think.
 
vindaloo said:
The way I'd sum it up & the way I'd use it:-



QEW is a wash for an everday car

S&W is a wash for a garage queen that's a bit dusty



Thank you. I was trying to think up a scenerio for the 2. You hit it right on the head on how I also use S&W. On black no less:bow
 
Thanks for the good write ups! Looks like I might have to test QEW

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Link:

http://www.campingworld.com/browse/products/index.cfm?prodID=1545&src=SRCH&tcode=37
 
GoodnClean said:
In my experience it breaks down the dirt as opposed to encapsulating it like QEW does. If you spray some on a bird bomb and watch it for a few seconds it will literally break it apart and you can just wipe it away.

When the weather gets better and I run my car through the touchless I'll tell you what, I'll mix up a spray bottle with the normal dillution of QEW and use it instead of the S&W and tell you what I think.



I figure that since there's not much liquid around, the S&W has to "break down" the dirt, as opposed to the QEW, which can "lift it away". If you want to try QEW as a S&W, maybe you should add some emulsifiers. I might bump up the concentration as well
 
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