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JayC

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Hey guys.. been a while since I posted here. Been out of the game for a bit.

Im looking for recommendations on a sealant to use on a couple of new cars we bought. Seems like ceramic coating is all the rage these days. What is the best sealant in terms of longevity and ease of application? Not super worried about the cost, just want to get something that will last for a while between applications.

Thanks!
 
Thanks!! I really want something that can do trim, etc in one go. That stuff looks interesting. Seems comparable to the Collinite stuff which I’ve used a good bit.


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JayC- FWIW, I used Collinite (845 and 476S) before switching to the FK, still have a *lot* it around here but only use that on a few limited areas on one car.

Unfortunately, the FK1000P is not really trim-friendly. I`ve done it, and had it turn out OK, but it`s *SO* easy for it to go sideways and turn into a huge PIA that I don`t recommend that. Hard to beat Collinite`s 845 Insulator Wax for a "goes over everything, no problem" LSP.
 
Another good one is Sonax Polymer Net Shield. Pair it with their Brilliant Shine Detailer for a nice 1-2 combo. Don`t expect slickness with both of these products.
 
The Guz said:
Another good one is Sonax Polymer Net Shield...[+]... Brilliant Shine Detailer.... Don`t expect slickness with both of these products.
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How`s the dirt-shedding of that combo? Asking as I generally find that to go hand-in-hand with slickness but I don`t want to make assumptions.
 
I have not used anything but coatings for years. If you are apposed to Coatings and cost isn’t the main driver i would look up permanon platinum.

It’s fast, Easy, looks good, can be used on paint, wheel, trim and glass. Lasts several weeks like a good sealant. I still have it in my arsenal when I do a car where is a free bee for a neighbor, friend or family.

Pretty much how I burn off my “used to be my favorite” detailing products. Still have some p21s 100%. It’s a classic by now.
 
+1 for FK1000P. Stuff lasts a very long time. I wouldnt consider it trim friendly tho.

If you want trim friendly id look into just about anything that is a silica based sealant. Carpro Reload, Gyeon Cure, Blackfire Si02 spray sealant just to name a few. These should get you a couple months of protection. Shouldn`t hurt your trim. It wont make the trim much darker or change its appearance so much, but it does protect it.

If you want stupid easy application, the spray and rinse Si02 sealants like Carpro Hydro2, Gyeon Wet Coat, Blackfire Hydroseal, McKees 37 Hydro Blue are very easy to use and basically allows you to apply your sealant as you rinse the car. These by design of the application process will coat EVERY part of the outside of your car, trim and all. Durability should be in the 2-3 month range. Its so easy to apply when washing your car that you can reapply almost anytime you wash with minimal effort
 
I`m thinking about trying Cancoat this winter. I`m not sure if it`s what you`re looking for but worth reading about.
 
Accumulator said:
How`s the dirt-shedding of that combo? Asking as I generally find that to go hand-in-hand with slickness but I don`t want to make assumptions.
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Hey, Hermano !!
Hope you guys are all good up there in NE Ohio !

I Detailed the Boss`s Jet Black Bimmer 5 Series once; a vehicle that had NEVER been touched (except by the Brown Bear Car Wash Bear-Claw-Brushes), with all Sonax products including Sonax Polymer Net Shield.

It came out fabulous of course; then he parked it out front of the Shop for 1 year..

It got rained on, snowed on, there in the Pacific Northwest, and it ALWAYS looked like it had just been washed and dried..

Yes, this product is not known for "slippy" but it absolutely keeps the finish clean..
Dan F
 
For your criteria, I would highly suggest Ultimate Paint Guard plus.

super easy application
can use it on everything including glass minus windshield
two coats will last 5 or so months depending on your enviroment
takes 10 min to do a whole vehicle
released dirt easily
great water sheeting properties
 
I just use Sonax BSD. It’s an LSP, works on trim, and a spray sealant. Only thing that seems to really compare to it is the Turtle Wax Shine & Seal for ease of use, water behavior, and longevity.

I know after I was my cars most of the time I’m going to wipe it down w/ something - I just use BSD & don’t worry about PNS. Once every few months and you are good.

I can tell you BSD alone is pretty much better than all the waxes & sealants out there
 
Try a sio2 based sealant. If don’t mind price Polish Angel cosmic spritz is awesome! Look up some videos. Use one everything (except glass so far) and the self cleaning is coating like beads are tight and roll right off.


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Coatings=crack said:
Try a sio2 based sealant. If don’t mind price Polish Angel cosmic spritz is awesome! Look up some videos. Use one everything (except glass so far) and the self cleaning is coating like beads are tight and roll right off.


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And with the new Cosmic Spritz Spraycoat and you do a finishing polish step with the PA Invicible Primer Polish. You extend the longevity from it up to 12-14 months. 2 layers of Cosmic and then you can spruce it up with the same Cosmic Spritz Spraycoat during this time. Application is very easy for such a strong product. If you don`t plan to polishing it`s not a need to be useing the Invicible Primer Polish but you get between 4-6 months. Then if your paint is in really great condition and you want the longevity from it. You have the PA Invicible Primer Spritz which is the spray form of the primer polish that has those bonding agents in it that makes the combo lasting longer. It serves as a panel prep wipe product so that`s another product you can skip.

Sonax PNS and BSD is also great products and even BSD on it`s own is long lasting LSP to be basicly a QD. I like the spray on rinse off products as they are so easy to use. I do always the wipe in method to get a little longer longevity from it and an even application when used on it`s own. Also you use very little of product this way and takes maybe an extra 5 minutes to apply it. Sonax Spray and Seal is one that I have come to like a lot lately. Gives me a little more at the candied look. PNS and BSD is the more sharper and crispy looks from so don`t the same looks from them. Then it`s not released in the US but Sonax Wash and Seal is a car soap which shares the Spray and Seal protection looks. Get you a 4-6 weeks of longevity from it. Was very impressed by the new version of Gyeon Wet Coat so you will easy get 3 months or more of very great behavior from it. Even more coating like than the earlier version. Carpro Hydro2 Lite is also really great and you have the Carpro Hydrofoam as a wash protection soap and Gyeon Bathe+ for Wet Coat. These have done a very great work to protect in the harsh winter weather environment I live in Sweden.

Ultima PGP is an underated product. Ease of use and in my case this where the old oil based version. Know when it`s water based it`s even easier I can imagine. Before it was needed to be bone dry paint when you applyied it. Now you can also use it as a drying aid even. 2 layers when you apply it the first time and then you can refresh this every other month if wanted to. And the Ultima Paint Guard Wash is a great car soap that leaves a little of the Polycharger polymers behind. And you have the waterless wash plus that you can dilute and use as a QD or drying aid if wanted.

It`s a series of products but I like the looks from them and it`s the Angelwax Enigma line. You have the ceramic wax and AIO and QED and ceramic infused car soap. It`s a ceramic wax hybrids of products that is nice.

Polish Angel Master Sealant is also a great looking protection. And combo that with the PA Esclate Lotion which is an abrasive paint cleaner that also have some kind oils in it that makes the paint color to look great and top it with the Master Sealant is awesome. If you have a metallic paint and want the metallic flakes pop like crazy. PA High Gloss as maintance wipe downs after the wash and you really gets them to stand out.

Ooh you maybe just wanted 1 option LOL. Sorry as there is so many great options out there today that both gets you a great protection and longevity from them. Then you have the looks from them that`s also something that you can get slightly different results from. So it`s much of the personal preferences on what to go with. And the better you prep your paint and polishing it to a great finish and you get both the best look and longevity from the LSP of choice.

/ Tony
 
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