product/pad/rpm escalation procedures (rotary)

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Hi all,



Up to how many times do you try using the same pad and product to remove a pesky scratch before moving up to a more agressive pad OR product OR rpm setting using a rotary?



Which one (pad, product, or rpm) would you "increase" first?



Would increasing the rpm be out of the question considering most products apply well at 1200rpm?



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Merci (interesting alais)



My personal perference is to increase the product versus the pad.



i.e. SMR/Polishing --> Slightly more abrasive product/polishing pad --> once you start getting to moderately abrasive, then switch over to a cutting pad --> wool / rough compound.



Cutting pads can leave a haze on finish depending on the product/machine/speed combination.



Only practice and experience and help you decide what's best for a certain condition you are trying to fix.



1200 rpm on a Rotary is a bit on the slow side. Generally speaking, 1500 - 1750 is a good rpm to run at depending on the product.



To really provide better advice, you'll need to state which pads, machine and products are you refering to.



Paco
 
merci said:
Up to how many times do you try using the same pad and product to remove a pesky scratch before moving up to a more agressive pad OR product OR rpm setting using a rotary?

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Not many. Unlike the PC, with the *rotary* if I'm not getting the results I want after two tries I get more aggressive. Though sometimes I'll decide that it's doing the work, just doing it slowly, and I'll be OK with that. Especially if I'm concerned about being too aggressive for some reason.



I agree with Paco, more a matter of using more aggressive products as opposed to pads, and I'll often use speeds in the 1,500-1,700 range unless the product calls for something different (e.g., 1z polishes do most of their work at much lower speeds, under 1K).
 
Thanks paco, Accumulator,



Here are the products at my disposal:



Pads:

CMA 7.5" White Polishing Pads

CMA 7.5" Grey Finishing Pads

CMA 6" Orange Power Pad



Products (ordered by descending level of abrasiveness):

Meg's #83 DACP

Menzerna IP

Meg's #80 Speed Glaze (equal?? to Menzerna IP)

Meg's #82 Swirl Free Polish (a touch more agressive than Menzerna FPII??)

Menzerna FPII



Please feel free to correct any of my thoughts below:



Me thinks I'll stick to about 1,200-1,500rpm but just keep at it longer and/or by moving the around rotary slower to give it more intensity on the area.



#83 DACP, #80 Speed Glaze, and Menzerna IP will definitely go with the White Polishing Pads. I'll use this for light scratches.



I'm still thinking that I can get away with #82 and Menzerna FPII on the Gray pads and move up to the White Polishing Pads if it doesn't work out. I'll use this for swirls and as a follow up after treating light scratches.



I still don't know what situation will call for the use of the Orange Power Pad w/ DACP, Speed Glaze, Menzerna IP. I don't plan to tackle scratches that I can feel with my fingernail. I plan to use fillers for those (3M Imperial Hand Glaze).



On surfaces that don't have any defects, I'll use #81 Hand Polish or #5 New Car Glaze for garage queens and then top with S100. For daily drivers and beaters, I'll use Klasse AIO, Klasse SG, and top with Mother's Carnauba Paste Wax.
 
Personally,



SFP/Finishing Pad or Speed Glaze with a polishing pad depending on the what you are attempting to remove. I haven't used the orange but based on popular opinion here of how it works out, DACP/Orange pad would get rid of some pretty serious flaws.
 
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