Pre wax cleaner before polishing?

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Mr.Jenkins

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Hey guys,



Do I need to use a pre wax cleaner before using a swirl remover polish? Or will the polish clean the paint?



Also, when I am finishing with the polish, should I use some kind of cleaner

before a LSP?......Here are the steps I was thinking on doing



wash

clay

mothers pre-wax cleaner (should I do this?)

Sonus#2 swirl remover

Sonus#3 final polish

should I clean the paint again before LSP?

Mothers FX synwax



These steps are going on a silver Mazda mini van, and this is my first time

ever doing a detail....I also have the UDM and several sonus and lake country

pads. Any help would be most appreciated....:thx





PS...:wavey....I did search with no luck on this particular question.
 
camaroDan said:
Hey guys,



Do I need to use a pre wax cleaner before using a swirl remover polish? Or will the polish clean the paint?



Also, when I am finishing with the polish, should I use some kind of cleaner

before a LSP?......Here are the steps I was thinking on doing



wash

clay

mothers pre-wax cleaner (should I do this?)

Sonus#2 swirl remover

Sonus#3 final polish

should I clean the paint again before LSP?

Mothers FX synwax



These steps are going on a silver Mazda mini van, and this is my first time

ever doing a detail....I also have the UDM and several sonus and lake country

pads. Any help would be most appreciated....:thx



PS...:wavey....I did search with no luck on this particular question.
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The Mother's pre-wax cleaner is a combination of solvents/surfactants and light polishing agents. The Mothers FX Synwax itself contains some light cleaning agents as well (much lighter than the pre-wax cleaner).



I'd just use the PWC on a white pad, and then go directly to the Synwax, unless you feel the car's surface needs to be explictly polished.
 
OR if you need more polishing, do a couple straight IPA wipedowns to get rid of all the oils in the polish before LSP. A lot of pro's do it on here and I do now too!
 
OK...cool, Thanks guys. I got one more question, if I decide to use the polish

(swirl remover) do I need to use the pre-wax cleaner before? Or will it be fine

to go straight from clay to polish?
 
camaroDan said:
OK...cool, Thanks guys. I got one more question, if I decide to use the polish

(swirl remover) do I need to use the pre-wax cleaner before? Or will it be fine

to go straight from clay to polish?
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RZJZA80 said:
go from clay to polish, then the pre-wax cleaner, then the wax
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I don't think the PWC will do anything that your polishing will not take care of..I would skip it
 
BigJimZ28 said:
I don't think the PWC will do anything that your polishing will not take care of..I would skip it
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That is what I use to do until I tried Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion. It really added gloss and depth to the paint before waxing. I also tried a more expensive Swissvax Cleaner Fluid and liked the PPCL better.
 
Legacy99 said:
That is what I use to do until I tried Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion. It really added gloss and depth to the paint before waxing. I also tried a more expensive Swissvax Cleaner Fluid and liked the PPCL better.
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Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion would fall under my defination of a "Glaze"



but Mothers Pre Wax cleaner is a combo of chemical cleaners and light polishes





IMO not the same type of product
 
I recommend:



wash



clay



Sonus#2 swirl remover (if you need it)



Sonus#3 final polish



IPA 50/50 wipedown



Mothers FX synwax
 
BigJimZ28 said:
Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion would fall under my defination of a "Glaze"



but Mothers Pre Wax cleaner is a combo of chemical cleaners and light polishes





IMO not the same type of product
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PPCL does have oils and fillers, but unlike a glaze it will clean any old waxes.
 
Legacy99 said:
PPCL does have oils and fillers, but unlike a glaze it will clean any old waxes.
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true but the added "gloss & depth" you get from it come from those oils

and the product the OP has does not have those oils so

I still do not see the point in using the Mothers PWC after polishing
 
BigJimZ28 said:
true but the added "gloss & depth" you get from it come from those oils

and the product the OP has does not have those oils so

I still do not see the point in using the Mothers PWC after polishing
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I agree Jim, just do an IPA wipe down and wax/seal.
 
Thanks guys for all the helpfull answers, thats why I love this site! This will be

my first detail so I am sure I'll have more questions along the way.
 
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