Possibly the scariest engine detailing advice I've seen:

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http://www.apexcone.com/TechProcedures/EngineBayCleaning/ArmorAll.html



Open the hood and absolutely soak the entire engine compartment with Armor All. Everything. Paint, wiring, engine, everything. Close the hood and let it sit overnight.
Armor All in the engine bay overnight is like Easy-Off in an oven. It cleans everything. Leaves a nice shine on your wiring too.
I wouldn't do this every week, it is expensive to use a pint or so a week...
But just call me picky.

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Has any Autopian tried this before?



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Oooookay.... Where the heck did he get this crazy idea that Armor All has magical cleaning powers?



I bet it also does wonders for the alternator, just like all that degreaser and water that's been sprayed into it.... :rolleyes:



Another example of the danger of a little "know how" in the wrong hands. :sosad
 
Worst of all, this method has quite following in several BMW forums. Someone even suggested him (Jim Powell) to patent his technique! His E36 M3 is incredible, though.



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Intermezzo said:
I think some of the Armor-All fumes must have gotten into the camera lense....hence the hazy pic.



Yea, it's interesting how the "before" photo looks so much clearer than the "after."



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Yes, yes this was before I joined autopia.. BUT I still use a similar method to clean my engine bay.



1) simple green and an old toothbrush (for the valve cover and other more durable bits) and a old MF for the painted parts

2) rinse very well.. I've got an aluminum block so I don't want to leave an alkaline substance like simple green on for too long

3) Armour-All foaming Tire spray. :) This is where I think I'll give some of your guys gray hairs. I spray all the plastic bits with a good coat of this stuff. The foam clings well and since it's for tires lasts for a very long time. I don't know how good it is for the plastic, but I don't really care since the everything is being swapped soon. :)

4) another rinse and spot drying with my MF



It works surprisingly well.. I'll take some pics in the spring when I do it again!





wow, I can almost hear you guys cringe. :)
 
I've used the tire foam before on the rubber hoses. I'd never think about soaking down the whole engine bay with normal Armor-All though. The tire foam works really well for when the engine hasn't been touched in 10 years and the hoses are just brown with crud. Whatever works...right?
 
spincycle said:
Yes, yes this was before I joined autopia..





I did this back in the day too. It was sooooo much easier then the correct method!! It took like 5 seconds...now I have to set aside a half a day to do the Bonneville and Civic engine! :scared :D
 
:nono Knows just enough to be dangerous.



"What's that smell?"

"What's that SMOKE?!!!!!"



Speaking to insurance agent after the fire:



"But ...........No One told me......."
 
4DSC: But I wonder how bad it is for the engine. I use 303 everywhere else in the car, but for the cost it's hard to use it for the engine. :)



Jngr: Yup, I got my car 6 years old and it made the plastics and hoses look great again. The guy I got it from didn't even know how to open the hood, let alone clean anything under it!



Dale: Well once there's an engine in there that's worth taking care of it's gonna take me ages too. Not looking forward to that, but I am looking forward to 100 more hp. :)







spin
 
I don't understand what the huge ordeal is?:confused:

Seems to me like he found a great use for a crappy product, and its no more dangerous than any other methods I have seen (all he had to do was cover liquid sensative parts and he would have been at the same level as everyone else in my mind).



Forgive me, but sometimes it seems that autopians link to other peoples detailing advice just to bash it and make themselves feel 'better'.



If this guy's results aren't up to your standards than don't follow his method, but I'm guessing a lot of people out there in cyber world who don't ever clean their engines will be very thankful for this apparently super easy method.
 
emobob said:
I don't understand what the huge ordeal is?:confused:

Seems to me like he found a great use for a crappy product, and its no more dangerous than any other methods I have seen (all he had to do was cover liquid sensative parts and he would have been at the same level as everyone else in my mind).



Forgive me, but sometimes it seems that autopians link to other peoples detailing advice just to bash it and make themselves feel 'better'.



If this guy's results aren't up to your standards than don't follow his method, but I'm guessing a lot of people out there in cyber world who don't ever clean their engines will be very thankful for this apparently super easy method.









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emobob said:


Forgive me, but sometimes it seems that autopians link to other peoples detailing advice just to bash it and make themselves feel 'better'.



If this guy's results aren't up to your standards than don't follow his method, but I'm guessing a lot of people out there in cyber world who don't ever clean their engines will be very thankful for this apparently super easy method.



Its not elitist to correct the misguided. He suggested that you spray down your entire engine without telling you to not spray water down the valve cover and to avoid the electronics. Those are some pretty important instructions in detailing your engine.



He also suggested that you spray it down with water with a cold engine and then spray Armor All all over it while its hot? Again, not a wise idea. Never spray anything on your engine when its hot. It doesn't matter if its water or Armor All. The laws of physics will apply in the same way. You apply a cold liquid to a hot surface and it may crack. Very dangerous to do.



Perhaps spraying Armor All on your hoses and letting it sit over night is a great idea. It certianly doesn't look like it did his hoses any favors though. I've forgotten to wipe down the hoses after I've sprayed them before and it left drip marks that I had to go back over them to fix.



Basicly what he is suggesting you do is degrease your engine, spray water all over it without covering any electronics or avoiding the danger areas and then heat it up so you can spray it down with a cold shot of armor all. Seems to me that the actual cleaning of the engine took place when he degreased it and rinsed it down. Spraying down a hot engine with Armor All seems like a wasted step. The next steps should have been to dry the engine and then dress the hoses. No danger there.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
Its not elitist to correct the misguided. He suggested that you spray down your entire engine without telling you to not spray water down the valve cover and to avoid the electronics. Those are some pretty important instructions in detailing your engine.



He also suggested that you spray it down with water with a cold engine and then spray Armor All all over it while its hot? Again, not a wise idea. Never spray anything on your engine when its hot. It doesn't matter if its water or Armor All. The laws of physics will apply in the same way. You apply a cold liquid to a hot surface and it may crack. Very dangerous to do.



Perhaps spraying Armor All on your hoses and letting it sit over night is a great idea. It certianly doesn't look like it did his hoses any favors though. I've forgotten to wipe down the hoses after I've sprayed them before and it left drip marks that I had to go back over them to fix.



Basicly what he is suggesting you do is degrease your engine, spray water all over it without covering any electronics or avoiding the danger areas and then heat it up so you can spray it down with a cold shot of armor all. Seems to me that the actual cleaning of the engine took place when he degreased it and rinsed it down. Spraying down a hot engine with Armor All seems like a wasted step. The next steps should have been to dry the engine and then dress the hoses. No danger there.



I agree completely, and thank you for actually commenting on the erroneous parts of his method.

You said its not elitist to correct the misguided, but I didn't see any correcting going on, just the usual point and laugh.
 
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