Porsche 997 C4S - Detailed

stilez

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**9/28/06 Update**



I was given permission by Eric Dunn at Lake Country to “let the cat out of the bag�. For this detail (and many others) in the past month or so, I used the new Lake Country CCS Pads ( http://lakecountrymfg.com/featured.html ). Thanks to Eric at Lake, he gave me a couple samples to test out prior to its official introduction. To date, they have only been used in the OEM market.



So far, I could estimate the use of these pads on at least 10 different vehicles. They come in various shapes and sizes, but I was using the 6� pads in 1� thickness. The cut levels I had were the Orange Cutting, White Polishing, and Black Finishing. I used them with a 5� Lake Country flexible backing plate. These combos were used on the rotary and PC at various speeds (mentioned in threads).



Here are the main things I took from these pads…





Pros

- Small diameter allowed for easy maneuvering

- Flat pad design allowed to equal contact, easy control, and complete polish coverage

- Dimples allowed for storage of extra polish. Basically, you’d buff your 3’x3’ area, for instance, and once the polish/compound went to translucent, but you still had a few defects remaining, you’d turn off the machine, and press the pad against the surface in various locations to “re-bead� the panel, and then continue buffing.

- Dimples spread out heat from friction allowing a more effective buffing pass. I find that with standard flat foam pads, it makes the surface so hot on the rotary after 5 passes with compound that I have to move to the next panel, wait for the initial to cool, then come back, ultimately wasting time. These dimples act like air cooling pockets keeping the surface only very warm, at max. I was able to do my standard 5 overlapping passes with Hi-Temp Extreme Cut, then switch off, “re-bead� with the CCS technology, and continue buffing until it was ready for a final polish.

- Lake Country pads, in my experiences are always of the highest quality. After 10+ vehicles, none of my pads have any nicks or cuts and the backing Velcro works great. For reference, I machine wash/dry my pads after each use.



Cons

- Honestly, I was hard pressed to find a con in comparison to other pads I’ve used (Edge, Meguiars, Lake Country Concaved), however, I wish I had the thicker version (1.5� I believe) to use with the PC. The PC, as any regular user knows, flattens out pads a bit and that little extra cushion would’ve been nice.







Just to end off, I like these pads so much that my standard Lake Country 7.5� Concaved series have been stowed away, probably for good. I don’t even bring them on the road with me anymore. The success rate with these has surpassed anything I’ve used and I will continue using them.



If you have any further questions, please feel free. Thanks.







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I had the pleasure of working on this beaut last week and just had a chance to post it up now. I want to thank Dino (Deanski) for the referral on this car. My second 997 C4S, these cars just stun me every time I work on them. I usually find my times increasing with Porsche's because I am gawking too much :).



Anyway, this car was in pretty nice shape. It has in the ballpark of 3000 miles and the owner is rather meticulous. He said it wasn't clean because he knew I was coming :D. He was very inquisitive to how to properly clean his car and I was happy to give him some tips to keep the defects down.



Regarding the condition of the car, it had very low levels of bonded contaminants (garaged all the time) and the swirls were pretty minor. A couple panels had some holograms on them (dealer prep) and the soil content was moderate. I tackled the interior vehicle and brought the entire to 99%+. I started with the interior:





-Vacuum

-Zaino Z9 to clean

-Zaino Z10 to protect

-APC 10:1 to spot clean mats

-Zaino Z8 in jams



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Engine



-APC cut 10:1 and multiple towels to hand clean the engine

-CD-2 Engine Detailer to dress

-Final wipedown with a dry towel



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Exterior



-Dawn wash

-Zaino Z18 Clay with Dawn wash as lube

-P21s Wheel Cleaner for the wheels (x 2 on front)

-TOL Tire Cleaner cut 50/50 for tires/wells



-Zaino Z-PC via PC and LC White Polishing Pad @ 6 (x 2 in a couple areas)

-Zaino Z-PC by hand and #0000 Steel Wool on exhaust

-Zaino Z6 wipedown

-Zaino Z5 Pro (ZFX/Z8) by hand on paint, glass, wheels



-Zaino Z8 final wipedown

-Zaino Z16 x 2 on tires

-CD-2 Engine Detailer in wells





Before

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After

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Wow! I am dying to get a Porsche to detail! I work across the street from the Aston Martin, Audi, Porsche dealer and the cars, especially the used ones look awful!



Your skills are amazing Sean. :bow

Do you find the #0000 steel wool to leave scratches on metal? I just picked up a pack but have yet to use it. What else do you use it on?
 
No F'in way.



Thats the same color I want my Porsche to be (still dreamin for next year).



What polishw ould you compare Zaino ZPC to? Does it break down quickly, is it PAD dependant..?



Joy
 
joyriiide1113 said:
Thats the same color I want my Porsche to be (still dreamin for next year).



Joy





That is the SAME color (Midnight Blue Metallic) as the 911S I'm taking delivery of in November. Only difference is my interior is Beige and not Grey.



SWEET
 
Thanks everyone :).





Kevin: I love cars with hips :D. I saw a Ford GT in person, up-close the other day. Man, that car has a fcukin' badunkadunk.





John: It leaves faint marring in direct sun, but with the buildup of tar, gravel, and soot on the tips, it was my only choice.





BlackSunshine: It worked out for me very well. I started the car with the rotary and 106FF and a black pad @ 1200 and got a lot of haze (Porsche paint is super soft). When I went to the PC and ZPC, I buffed until transparent and removed. I was floored at how much of a better job it did. I wish the sun peaked out of the hazy clouds a little more because the flake was great when done. I have found ZPC to work really well with the Lake Country white and orange pads @ 6 and worked til transparent. I have done it on 4 cars thus far with equally flawless results.





Joy and sws: Words of advice - Get a CLEARBRA! The owner is going nuts with the miniscule rock chips and pits on the nose and hips only after 3000 miles. Luckily he is only leasing it, but it still bothers him.





Joy: I would compare it most closely to the cut and finish of PO106FF minus the polishing oils. Z-PC is a water-based polish. Via rotary, 106FF is going to finish a little bit cleaner, but via PC, I find them equal. 106 will be a little bit deeper, ZPC will be a little bit brigher, but you would have to measure side by side. Make sure you use a FLAT pad with ZPC...for some reason (for me) it made a huge benefit.





sws: The one I worked on had blue interior...Is it considered like a steel gray?
 
Beautiful work, Sean....I agree with the others, those last two shots are stunning! :bow



I have to agree about Porsche paint being soft and mar prone. #80 and VM seem to work very well without leaving any haze-although they wouldn't be as compatible with your Zaino routine as ZPC is.
 
G35stilez said:
Thanks everyone :).





Kevin: I love cars with hips :D. I saw a Ford GT in person, up-close the other day. Man, that car has a fcukin' badunkadunk.





John: It leaves faint marring in direct sun, but with the buildup of tar, gravel, and soot on the tips, it was my only choice.





BlackSunshine: It worked out for me very well. I started the car with the rotary and 106FF and a black pad @ 1200 and got a lot of haze (Porsche paint is super soft). When I went to the PC and ZPC, I buffed until transparent and removed. I was floored at how much of a better job it did. I wish the sun peaked out of the hazy clouds a little more because the flake was great when done. I have found ZPC to work really well with the Lake Country white and orange pads @ 6 and worked til transparent. I have done it on 4 cars thus far with equally flawless results.





Joy and sws: Words of advice - Get a CLEARBRA! The owner is going nuts with the miniscule rock chips and pits on the nose and hips only after 3000 miles. Luckily he is only leasing it, but it still bothers him.





Joy: I would compare it most closely to the cut and finish of PO106FF minus the polishing oils. Z-PC is a water-based polish. Via rotary, 106FF is going to finish a little bit cleaner, but via PC, I find them equal. 106 will be a little bit deeper, ZPC will be a little bit brigher, but you would have to measure side by side. Make sure you use a FLAT pad with ZPC...for some reason (for me) it made a huge benefit.





sws: The one I worked on had blue interior...Is it considered like a steel gray?





That could be blue interior. It looks grey in the pics. But Porsche does have a blue interior.



My dealer puts on the clearbra and they all look awful to me. It doesn't look like paint. I'd decided I'd rather have a car which gets a few chips than drive around with the obvious plastic on it. That's just me. I know I'll be upset when I see the first chip, but I still opt for the plastic free hood.
 
sws1 said:
That could be blue interior. It looks grey in the pics. But Porsche does have a blue interior.



My dealer puts on the clearbra and they all look awful to me. It doesn't look like paint. I'd decided I'd rather have a car which gets a few chips than drive around with the obvious plastic on it. That's just me. I know I'll be upset when I see the first chip, but I still opt for the plastic free hood.





While I agree with you completely regarding the hood, I had *my* front bumper, headlights, and sideview mirrors wrapped. It makes a big difference and is barely noticeable (no blatant lines).
 
Sean,



GREAT JOB! :2thumbs: Owner asked if I could do it, but I was involved with a project, so naturally I sent him to you.



I'll bet he's happy as all hell!



Porsche paint IS very soft when working on it as I found out! FUnny thing, Zymol has the new Glazur "wax" for Porsche and they state "To protect and enhance this rock hard paint finish of German fame". DOn't know what Porsche they did, but all the Porsche paint I've touched is very soft. P085RD can also haze even with finish pads!



Having a black 997 C2S, I know first hand how difficult it is too keep clean and maintain even garaged! The PCCB's help by keeping the wheels free from brake dust.



Sean, you're always welcome to do my 997!! :grinno: :woot2:



Regards,

Deanski
 
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