Please help me with these swirls...!!!

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gto78

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this pic is AFTER i used my PC set on 4 with PFIII and AIO, and SG, and poorboys ex-p....'



i applied the PFIII with yellow foam pad, and AIO with both yellow foam, and then white foam. then applied SG with white pad, and then with a finishing pad. Then applied EX-P by hand.
 

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BTW i've been trying all week on my hatchback to get rid of the same marks. After a week of trying, i ended up using PFIII with a rotary, then SSR2 with the rotary, then ssr2 on a random orbital, and ssr1 on an orbital..... now in the sunlight it's almost all gone in most places... i'm about to give up and finish it with aio, sg, and ex-p
 
gto78- I think you're already figuring it out- use a rotary when you need one.



When you use a cutting pad on the PC, you usually need to follow up with the same product and a polishing pad. Sometimes you gotta made very gradual, incremental moves from coarse to fine. Notice how this isn't as big an issue with the rotary in the equation.



Oh, and I always use speed 6 to polish with the PC.
 
really? speed 6? ok i'll do that next. I was afraid of goin too hard on it. I'll consider that in my case, with the spider swirls on my paint, that i need the rotary/PFIII followed by pc speed 6 / ssr2 polishing pad, then ssr1 polishing pad, then aio polishing pad, then sg by hand and ex-p by hand... that should take me about a year, but it'll be worth it to me. thanks



also, do i have to wait overnight to apply the ex-p?
 
gto78. . . I've had good success with my PC and 3M Machine Polish (39003). I use an Orange pad and speed between 5 - 6. The orange pad gives a little more cutting power.



I keep coming back to the 3M machine polish. Always works for me. But whatever product you use the secret lies in really "working" the product till it's almost dry and just a fine powder remaining. As Accumulator said, it's a gradual thing. Don't expect to eliminate swirls and scratches with just one pass. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 applications.



For me, when using 39003 I can usually go right to a wax, it really leaves a nice clean surface with that "wet look" that we treasure so much.
 
thats one more thing i'll probably pick up at the local supply store. I have a small collection starting, and once I figure out what works for me, I'll narrow down my supplies to just keeping the things that work.
 
heres one from the same day, but at a different angle.... the swirls are intense one direction and invisible the other direction.
 

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gto78, Perfect it III is a line of products from 3M. What one are you using? Machine Glaze, Rubbing compound, Extra Cut Rubbing Compound? There is a big range in how abrasive the products are in that line.
 
oh yeah i forgot to mention which one....lol i used the extra cut on areas where i had either severe water spots that wouldnt go away, and in areas that had scratches or deep swirls. after i used it is when suddenly the other products like ssr2 and ssr1 or AIO finally started doing their jobs as well.
 
Sounds like your on the right track now. I'm finding that things go best when I do more work with the rotary and only a little with the PC. Very mild products and pads can work wonders with the rotary.



And with the PC, I'd use polishing pads with polishes. Some people like a light final pass with a finishing pad, but it's not like the polishing one won't leave a perfect finish. Using the SSR1 with a finishing pad might just be a waste of time. So use that with a polishing pad, AIO with a polishing pad, SG with a finishing pad.
 
great, thats what my personal opinion was... I personally was seeing that using the finishing pad didnt really do anything for the apearance, but just made working in the wax a lot easier.
 
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