Please clear this Menzerna confusion

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JustinL

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Hi all. I have an order of Menzerna Intensive Polish PO91 coming from AutoGeek.

Now, what is the difference between the Menzerna Super Intensive Polish 3.01 and 3.02??? Because on Autogeek's website, they are saying that their Super Intensive Polish goes under the name of 3.01, but nothing is mentioned about 3.02.



I am very confused. The reason I ordered the regular Intensive Polish is because the SIP is on backorder everywhere, and i didnt want to wait.
 
You have to get 3.02 straight from DE or UK. SuperBee will probably comment on that soon. He got some from the UK and seems to love it.



I use 3.01 and have no complaints about it except for the dusting. Add a tiny bit of RMG and voila less dust and works longer. I love playing Mr. Alchemist...
 
Well, I plan to add a little bit of Optimum Polish to the Intensive Polish, as I do not have RMG. Hopefully, OP will help with dusting and making it more compatible in the heat.
 
I've been waiting to order some SIP. Maybe I will just order IP for now.



I noticed since being sold out autogeeks price went up to $45. :( Detailcity still has it listed for $27 but they are sold out also.
 
Does anyone think that I should return the IP when it comes and spend $80.00 (!) for the SIP 3.02 from England?

Is it REALLY that much better??
 
jshillin said:
I have both IP and SIP(3.01). The IP is good, but I like the SIP better, cuts well and finishes down nice.
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Ok, but does IP *not* finish down well? Because from descriptions that I have read, it does...and thats the main reason I purchased it. Because I need a product that will provide great cut with a good quality shine ready for LSP.
 
No, it can finish down fine, it just doesn't cut near as well as SIP. I've stepped up to SIP the last 3 times I tried to use IP, but I've been working on some pretty neglected vehicles. You may be fine with IP. I would sayy try it, I have both and plan to keep both.
 
JL6er said:
Does anyone think that I should return the IP when it comes and spend $80.00 (!) for the SIP 3.02 from England?

Is it REALLY that much better??
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JL6er said:
Ok, but does IP *not* finish down well? Because from descriptions that I have read, it does...and thats the main reason I purchased it. Because I need a product that will provide great cut with a good quality shine ready for LSP.
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Don't get me wrong, I do love my SIP 3.02. Like... alot. For alot of reasons: it cuts very quickly, even on the really hard clears, has a nice working time, doesn't dust as badly as other Menz polishes, and finishes down very well. Especially when you consider how much cutting power this polish has, it finishes down very, very well. You might consider it LSP ready, but usually the finish can still be improved with a finishing polish like PO106FF. However, the cash you'd save on buying regular SIP 3.01 or just IP vs. buying 3.02 could buy alot of very nice detailing supplies.



Also, SIP 3.01 and 3.02 are *not* easy polishes to learn to use. They do have quite a learning curve. Too much polish, and your pad is gonna hop around, bite, skip, hop, then spit polish at you. Too little polish, and well.. dry polishing never has good results. Also, both of the SIP versions seem to be very finicky about what pads they'll play nicely with. I've had great luck using all different colors and varieties of wool pads, and I remembere Rydawg saying (and he has lots of SIP 3.02 experience) that he's had great success with 3.02 and Orange LC CCS pads.

IP is definitely an easier to use polish.
 
Thanks a ton SuperBee364. I've been pulling hair about this for too long. I think I'll order some IP. I'm still a noob so easier to use is a huge plus.
 
porta said:
PO85RD3.02 runs circles around PO91L.
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:p And you can probably just go to your local store and pick some up. Lucky! Next time anyone I know goes overseas, I'm going to beg them to get me a bottle.
 
BlueZero said:
Thanks a ton SuperBee364. I've been pulling hair about this for too long. I think I'll order some IP. I'm still a noob so easier to use is a huge plus.
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Some other stuff to think about...



Remember that IP won't cut nearly as well as either of the SIP's will, so if you're going to be using IP with a PC 7424, it's going to be *alot* more work to get any paint correction done, especially if your car has a really hard clear coat.



If I were going to be using a PC to do correction, I'd buy some Blackfire Scratch Resistant Compound (it is SIP 3.01 re-labeled). It comes in a smaller bottle, so you don't have to pay 50 bucks to get your SIP feet wet. I'd then buy some 4" orange LC pads for the PC, and learn to use the SIP. It might take a while to get it down, but the speed at which you can correct paint is so much better than IP.



IP = easier to use, but will take much longer to correct paint than SIP, less expensive



SIP = much better correcting ability, more difficult to use, a bit more expensive.
 
BlueZero said:
:p And you can probably just go to your local store and pick some up. Lucky! Next time anyone I know goes overseas, I'm going to beg them to get me a bottle.
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As matter of fact I can since a friend of mine sells Menzerna :D but remember that we are paying $35 for a gallon of car shampo that costs $12 in the US...



But I rather have Menzerna SRC polishes around the corner for a good price.
 
EHH, well, since the Blackfire SRC Compound is essentially the same thing as SIP 3.01, I just placed an order for it from ClassicMotoringAccessories.



So, I guess I will soon see for myself whether I like the regular IP or Blackfires version of SIP better. Just hope I didnt piss away another 30 bucks....
 
JL6er said:
EHH, well, since the Blackfire SRC Compound is essentially the same thing as SIP 3.01, I just placed an order for it from ClassicMotoringAccessories.



So, I guess I will soon see for myself whether I like the regular IP or Blackfires version of SIP better. Just hope I didnt piss away another 30 bucks....
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JL6er--would be interested in hearing your thoughts.

A chat with ClassicMotoringAccessories had them in a huffy alarmed that anybody would put the 2 products in the same category (they claim the Blackfire Compound is much more aggressive than SIP).



See this thread:

http://autopia.org/forum/detailing-...na-sip-not-blackfire-compound.html#post975941
 
I was told by proper auto care that SIP and IP are exactly the same.



The Menzerna chart has them categorized the same as well. I wanted to buy SIP, but they don't carry it. I would have to go to Autogeek to get it.

Here is the chart from their website....

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I guess I will try this blackfire src to see if it cuts more than IP. I need something with a bit more bite!
 
SuperBee364 said:
Some other stuff to think about...



Remember that IP won't cut nearly as well as either of the SIP's will, so if you're going to be using IP with a PC 7424, it's going to be *alot* more work to get any paint correction done, especially if your car has a really hard clear coat.



If I were going to be using a PC to do correction, I'd buy some Blackfire Scratch Resistant Compound (it is SIP 3.01 re-labeled). It comes in a smaller bottle, so you don't have to pay 50 bucks to get your SIP feet wet. I'd then buy some 4" orange LC pads for the PC, and learn to use the SIP. It might take a while to get it down, but the speed at which you can correct paint is so much better than IP.



IP = easier to use, but will take much longer to correct paint than SIP, less expensive



SIP = much better correcting ability, more difficult to use, a bit more expensive.
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Are you absolutely sure it is SIP relabeled? Used it once and didn't like the feel to the product.
 
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