please answer asap. trim on avalanche and aio not so good!! dealership?

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quamen

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Lets make a long story short here. Guy brings his 2003 avalanche to the dealer to get detailed. They detail it,and the plastic trim is white within a few days. He calls me to detail the vehicle again, which i did and used aio on the plastic. The plastic turned back to white again!! We have been having alot of rain and whatnot, so maybe it didnt get a chance to absorb good enough? Anyways, what can i use to remove this residue? I was thinking peanut butter, or the alcohol mix, wax blaster which im running out of. I have motherb2b which im going to try and should work? HOw can i really clean the surface well so it is prepped?
 
i've used peanut butter and it works great. i rub it on the white spots with a toothbrush and agitate it a little and then shoot it off w/ my elec. pressure washer. i find that peanut butter is the only thing that actually removes the wax stains. b2b, aio, Forever black are all cover ups and the white will eventually shine through.



Good Luck!
 
The two best products I've come arcoss that removes wax residue from trim are Wax Blaster (CMA) and GR-40 (Top of the Line). I used Wax Blaster up until I was given a sample of GR-40 from a friend. The stuff works great.
 
I use Einszett Plastik-Reiniger on my MINI's plastic wheel arch trim and it takes the wax and polish stains off better than anything I've used to date. I then follow that up with Einszett Tiefenpfleger to seal and protect the trim. the Tiefenpfleger leaves a nice dark rich satin finish and I think has UV protection in it.
 
DFTowel said:
What about "Back to Black?"
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No can do....You really need to remove the residue prior to anything.....B2B will fade in a week or two, and your back at sq 1. The best alternative, aside from removing, and really wanting to darken the black, would be to use Black Again, which is an actual dye product....
 
Best product I've found for removing wax and polish from plastic trim is Eagle A2Z wheel cleaner. It really works.



As for making plastic trim pretty, Black Again is the best I've found. It's another of those products that really works.



Black Again also does a darn good job of cleaning out the wax and polish gunk. Not quite as well as A2Z does, but close. Far better then any of the other products or tricks I've tried.
 
quamen said:
...2003 avalanche to the dealer to get detailed. They detail it,and the plastic trim is white within a few days. He calls me to detail the vehicle again, which i did and used aio on the plastic. The plastic turned back to white again!!
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As best you tell, is the "whiteness" from the original dealer-wax? I'd be very surprised if it's from the AIO, but if so I'd like to know.



I wonder about using AIO topped with a sealant (I usually use BF for this on trim) :nixweiss
 
Labster said:
Where can I find this Black Again product?
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The original Black Again was a petro solvent in a creamy emulsion and worked great for removing oxidation on trim. They've now switched the formula to one that's principally silicone oil and it's not as effective IMHO. It still is useful. I sell it at my store www.detailsbyalisa.com if you care to check.
 
quamen said:
Lets make a long story short here. Guy brings his 2003 avalanche to the dealer to get detailed. They detail it,and the plastic trim is white within a few days. He calls me to detail the vehicle again, which i did and used aio on the plastic. The plastic turned back to white again!! We have been having alot of rain and whatnot, so maybe it didnt get a chance to absorb good enough? Anyways, what can i use to remove this residue? I was thinking peanut butter, or the alcohol mix, wax blaster which im running out of. I have motherb2b which im going to try and should work? HOw can i really clean the surface well so it is prepped?
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Hope you had success with the suggestions offered here. In case you didn't, I've found the best thing to permanently remove white cleaner residue from trim is a citrus degreaser. I'm talking a full strength one like P21s Total Auto Wash, not the watered down versions available at the grocery store. You usually need to work it in with a toothbrush, especially on textured vinyl, but with patience you're rewarded. Any dressing, even Black Again, just provides a temporary cover.



Good Luck :-)
 
quamen



The problem may not be what is seems. There has been an issue with the cladding fading on Avalanches for some time, and this may be what you are experiencing rather than wax stains.



I am kind of new here so I dont know the rules on posting external links, but there is a Technical Service Bulletin out there, email at jimhammill2003@yahoo.com for the link.



Jim.
 
I have never tried this, but a firend of mine says he uses WD-40 to remove wax residue when he gets it on his door handles, and says it works great. Anyone want to chime in on this?
 
Thanks alot guys, i followed some suggestions and they worked. peanut butter on a really bad spot, the others i used the wax blaster. Then i used back to black by mothers and he said it is holding up just fine!! well see after all this rain!
 
Quamen,



sorry to write this, but I think everything you try will fail. It's a big concern for GM to solve this issue, but there is no solution yet.



As an automotive writer, I'm informed quite well. And there IS a BIG PROBLEM with the Avalanche trim. That's why you see the newer, naked models...



GM has used internal release agents in the molding. Therefore as it dissolves, it will come to the surface, leaving a greasy, waxy finish - no matter what you use. Everything will float away, as the attack comes from the plastic itself. It will turn white, uneven; and no liquid, no dressing or whatever will stop that. Even paint will delaminate as the plastic releases the agents.



There is an inside technical bulletin regarding the issue, but as I said, no solution.



Tell the customer that is an Avalanche speciality, and he must live with it. Sorry, but it sucks big time...

:sosad :down :nono :angry :nixweiss :( :grrr :wall :scared :shocked
 
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