pc > cyclo??? = rotary lol! i hated math

joyriide1113

joyriide1113

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having some problems with light hologramming from my makita. i only notice it under sun lighting when its almost sunset. these really bug me.

i wanted to get a cyclo for this main purpose and also for jobs that really dont require a rotary. how much better is a cycle than the pc?

after the learning curve do u think u spend less time polishing?

how exactly do u advantage from to heads???


if these are all too many questions maybe u guys can just forward me to something explaining all this. so far i havent gound anything.
 
Cyclo doesn't vibrate and it can build alot more heat & potential for polishing. If it's minor, I'd say go PC since it's cheaper and you can definitely wax with it. You won't be disappointed with either, but I suggest the PC price wise.
 
The Cyclo will remove the holgramming and handle most light defects in general. If you were focused only on two polishers I'd say go with your rotary and a Cyclo.
 
how does the concept of two "smaller" heads and a fixed speed of 3 work better than a variable speed of up to 6 on the PC?
 
I have recently purchased a cyclo, and I can honestly tell you that it is a great machine. I don't understand the huge fuss over a PC and so little attention given to a cyclo. It is definitely a machine worth having. If I had to pick between the PC and a Cyclo, there'd be no PC in my garage. :)

Many thanks to BillD for answering many questions on the subject. Also, many thanks to Winner's Circle for their great service and quick shipment. :bigups
 
joyriide1113 said:
having some problems with light hologramming from my makita. i only notice it under sun lighting when its almost sunset. these really bug me.
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If your getting Holograms from you Makita you should really find out why before spending a lot of money for a Cyclo that just might not do what your expecting it to do.

I have a Cyclo and yes I like it's balance, weight and performance, I feel it's a machine that's fits the bill between the PC and the rotary, but it also has it's limits like all machines mentioned above. Pads are another issue, some are good and others are just plain crap.

This is not a cheep investment, I have not seen a Cyclo go for under $300 but you know your own wallet.

When it comes to detailing "I" feel that process is much more important that product......to an extent. all products have there limits and can cause Micro marring and Holograms if they are not worked to there limit or past there limit. This is a fine line to find, some it may take a life time to master and others catch on right away.

If you feel that your process may need to be refined, let us know what your doing and maybe we can give some advice on the products that your using with out going out and buying more stuff to sit on the shelf and collect dust.

I hope this info is helpful in some way

Good luck
Rich
 
Beercan31 said:
If your getting Holograms from you Makita you should really find out why before spending a lot of money for a Cyclo that just might not do what your expecting it to do.

I have a Cyclo and yes I like it's balance, weight and performance, I feel it's a machine that's fits the bill between the PC and the rotary, but it also has it's limits like all machines mentioned above. Pads are another issue, some are good and others are just plain crap.

This is not a cheep investment, I have not seen a Cyclo go for under $300 but you know your own wallet.

When it comes to detailing "I" feel that process is much more important that product......to an extent. all products have there limits and can cause Micro marring and Holograms if they are not worked to there limit or past there limit. This is a fine line to find, some it may take a life time to master and others catch on right away.

If you feel that your process may need to be refined, let us know what your doing and maybe we can give some advice on the products that your using with out going out and buying more stuff to sit on the shelf and collect dust.

I hope this info is helpful in some way

Good luck
Rich
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That's some good advise. How much seat time do you have with the rotary? 9 times out of 10 I use a polish or finish pad with my rotary and have really good results. If I use anything more abrasive (yellow or orange cutting pad) I don't have the skill level to prevent some of what you are seeing.
 
Beercan31 said:
This is not a cheep investment, I have not seen a Cyclo go for under $300 but you know your own wallet.
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FWIW, Winner's Circle has a Cyclo kit, complete with LC pads, MF bonnets (you can use to "spit shine" or final buff with) and the rubber pad holders for under $300. They also have free shipping for orders over $75. I got the LC Cyclo kit and some MF towels delivered to the door for under $300.
 
Hmm...Maybe I'll take the plunge into the Cyclo instead of a PC. Is it just as easy or easier to use than a PC?
 
LikeaRock said:
Hmm...Maybe I'll take the plunge into the Cyclo instead of a PC. Is it just as easy or easier to use than a PC?
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The learning curve is different. I'll say that. It's not variable speed, but IMO, the Cyclo produces more "oomph." You can bear down with it to work on defects and never bog it down. It's a little more "clumsy" to use at first than the PC, but once you get the hang of it, it can do a lot more work.

One thing I am doing is using a PC with a 4" pad/back plate combo to get into areas that the Cyclo has trouble getting into due to it's larger size. I can cover the whole truck. I feel that the PC is a lot more effective when using a 4" pad for defect removal anyway.

The Cyclo costs a bit more, but I think it makes up for it in the amount of work it can do (as in defect removal).
 
JaredPointer said:
The learning curve is different. I'll say that. It's not variable speed, but IMO, the Cyclo produces more "oomph." You can bear down with it to work on defects and never bog it down. It's a little more "clumsy" to use at first than the PC, but once you get the hang of it, it can do a lot more work.

One thing I am doing is using a PC with a 4" pad/back plate combo to get into areas that the Cyclo has trouble getting into due to it's larger size. I can cover the whole truck. I feel that the PC is a lot more effective when using a 4" pad for defect removal anyway.

The Cyclo costs a bit more, but I think it makes up for it in the amount of work it can do (as in defect removal).
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Well it sounds like a PC might be a good choice for me, at least to start out with. I just got a job at a local auto body shop as a detailer (I don't do everything, but theres only one other guy, so we'll be plenty busy), and he's already said he'll help me learn how to use a rotary. So I think maybe I'll take the plunge for the PC instead and buy a roatary once I gain experience!
 
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