PC correction limits?

Greg Nichols

Greg Nichols

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I like my PC, but I'm working with a VERY swirled and scratched black Toyota Tundra and have worked the PC on 6 with an Orange pad and OC and it removes about 80% of the issues. I worked the paint even more and yet I seem to get no additional return for the efforts? The defects cannot be felt by the finger nail either.



Am I at the limits of the PC, or shall I use a compound with more cut.



When work the paint I mean 5 passes, working at 1"/sec of a 3'x3' area.



What shall I do?
 
You need to be working in a 12"x12" area not 3'x3' area especially when doing correction work.



There isnt much i cannot remove with a 4" cutting pad and a decently strong compound.
 
So use a stronger compound

OHC, Presta Compound



My rate of movement is okay

Slow and steady



Work a smaller area at a time.

allow the compound to work and break down.



I have a yellow but I don't think its the same Yellow as LC. It is a Arnold, MEG's. I can get a RED Megs pad for compounding.



Thanks
 
I don't have any 4" backing plates yet, so no pads either.



I think the MEG's Red pad is Highly abrasive, more so than the Yellow or Orange. I was always under the belief that you use a higher abrasive compound vs. Pad.
 
I always step up to a more aggresive product before i up the pad.



IMHO i think your just working to large of an area which is causing you to not break down the polish/compound.
 
Coupe said:
I always step up to a more aggresive product before i up the pad.



IMHO i think your just working to large of an area which is causing you to not break down the polish/compound.
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The polish is breaking down its just Diluted over the larger working area for me. Adding more compound/polish will just gum up the pad.......Correct?
 
The only way I can do significant correction by PC is with the 4" pads, they utterly transform the PC's abilities. Hi-Temp Extreme Cut, used with 4" pads, will do some pretty impressive work if you spend enough time on it. It's so aggressive that you have to be a little careful with it (I damaged clear with the PC using a pretty mild 4" pad).



Note that the "enough time" could easily run into many, many hours...even with the 4" pads and an aggressive product, the PC never turns into a rotary ;)



And yeah, work a smaller area.
 
I agree work a smaller area.





Here is what I can remove with a PC





SSR3 (or equivalent) - cutting pad:



bna_04.jpg






Meguiars DACP, Menzerna IP, etc. - orange pad:



dacp_home.jpg








Menzerna FP, Po85RD, PB SSR1, etc. - polishing pad



fp_home.jpg
 
Those are some impressive corrections for a PC.



If you use something super aggresive like a Meg's Cutting pad or LC's Yellow, you will have to make extra steps to remove the hazing those pads will put in the paint.
 
blkyukon said:
I agree work a smaller area.





Here is what I can remove with a PC





SSR3 (or equivalent) - cutting pad:



bna_04.jpg






Meguiars DACP, Menzerna IP, etc. - orange pad:



dacp_home.jpg








Menzerna FP, Po85RD, PB SSR1, etc. - polishing pad



fp_home.jpg
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who needs a rotary when you have it dialed down like yourself, good job! :2thumbs:
 
TH0001 said:
Those are some impressive corrections for a PC.



If you use something super aggresive like a Meg's Cutting pad or LC's Yellow, you will have to make extra steps to remove the hazing those pads will put in the paint.
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Thanks!



Very true especially on black or darker non-metallic colors. You can minimize the hazing though, by making sure to completely break down the polish and changing or cleaning the pads often.



Here is the minimal amount of hazing I get after using an aggressive combo like LC yellow pad and SSR3:



ssr3_haze_side.jpg




Close up:



ssr3_haze.jpg
 
[quote name='blkyukon']I agree work a smaller area.





Here is what I can remove with a PC





SSR3 (or equivalent) - cutting pad:





Meguiars DACP, Menzerna IP, etc. - orange pad:



dacp_home.jpg








Menzerna FP, Po85RD, PB SSR1, etc. - polishing pad





Very good pics! What do you suggest? I use DACP with megs yellow polishing pad with a PC. What's best to follow that up with before LSP? #80 or #9 SR? I was told #80, but I have a lot of #9 to use up. What do you think, I'm open to ideas :-)
 
Vintage said:
.. What do you suggest? I use DACP with megs yellow polishing pad with a PC. What's best to follow that up with before LSP? #80 or #9 SR? I was told #80, but I have a lot of #9 to use up. ..
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I'd go with the #80. It's the standard follow up to #83 and IMO #9 will be too mild.
 
blkyukon - What size pads did you use to correct those black vehicles?



On another note, could anyone spare a 4 oz. sample of EC that I'd be willing to pay for?
 
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