p21s vs souveran

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maxi

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This compare p21 v souveran in bonnet .



steps:

1-wash with meguiars hyper wash and clay with mg blue



2-autoglym SRP



3-p21s right side v souvern left side



p21s looking wet - vibarglass looking



souveran look more refliction deep color over AG SRP



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no to be picky but on the first picture the souveran side has more reflection because the it has the tree to reflect the p21s is just reflection the sky. i'm sure in person the difference is noticable but i just don't know if a camera can pick it up. does p21s and souveran sheet water like some of the videos of zymol or swivax? just curious. btw i think both sides look pretty damn good.
 
3wide said:
no to be picky but on the first picture the souveran side has more reflection because the it has the tree to reflect the p21s is just reflection the sky. i'm sure in person the difference is noticable but i just don't know if a camera can pick it up. does p21s and souveran sheet water like some of the videos of zymol or swivax? just curious. btw i think both sides look pretty damn good.
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yes i agree with y more reflection in souvern side because the tree , iused souveran vs zymol concourse in my charger , zymol best sheet water concourse sheet water better than any carnuba for 2 month and more , but if you sheet water like zymol ,use QD over souveran or p21s .



iused last touch over p21s after 1 wash apply second coat of p21s ..the result wow.



zymol concourse best sheet water than destiny ,concourse more protection than destiny ,but destiny give more sharpe refliction than concourse .
 
maxi- I never put much stock in internet photos, and I don't always see differences in them. That said, your findings are exactly what *I* experienced when I compared P21S and Souveran on the Jag; I even used SRP as the penultimate product too!



Some people might actually *prefer* the P21S, but I too like Souveran better. And SRP is a good underlying product for it :xyxthumbs
 
Accumulator said:
maxi-



Some people might actually *prefer* the P21S, but I too like Souveran better. And SRP is a good underlying product for it :xyxthumbs
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yes accumulator ,when show this result to some people or some friend have little exprince in shine type may be 99% said p21s is better because genraly people like high gloss .p21s advange:good for all color metalic and solid not like souveran only for solid paint. p21s more more motion shine.



souveran nice wax ,quit shine its mean quit shine = sharp refliction . ithink need 2x coat of souveran to show more gloss , some time you feel one coat of souveran is not enough ,



i think must prewax you car with some product give very bright shine(klass -srp.-or glaze etc) to get best result with souveran.
 
Maxi- Can you believe that I like Souveran on *metallic* paint?!? I'm weird I guess, but my wife is the same way :nixweiss



Yeah, two or more coats of Souveran look better to me too. I sometimes spit-shine the subsequent coats, with good results.
 
Accumulator said:
Maxi- Can you believe that I like Souveran on *metallic* paint?!? I'm weird I guess, but my wife is the same way :nixweiss



Yeah, two or more coats of Souveran look better to me too. I sometimes spit-shine the subsequent coats, with good results.
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really , souveran mute metalic fleck ...that what isaw in my car . i like souveran if im drive in night . really best refliction more than p21s in night times.
 
maxi said:
really , souveran mute metalic fleck ...that what isaw in my car..
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Hmmm..might be something that happens more with some paints than with others :nixweiss It's been a while since I used Souveran on a metallic, but my wife and I both liked it on Audi silver, GM Pewter, and Porsche Horizon Blue. But I *can* imagine it muting flake more than P21S and some other products.



I love it on the Jag's Rhodium Silver Metallic (single stage metallic lacquer, you don't see that very often), but I'm funny about the Jag and how I want it to look :o



Some day I'll try Zymol Vintage and that might change my opinions about what looks good.
 
looks more like to me the objects reflections across aren't even... of course the tree reflection is gonna look better :shrug: the windshield even looks better on that side
 
I do not believe for a second that someone would be able to tell the difference if they weren't told. Let's be realistic, you can wax a car with turtle wax and in the right lighting and angle it can look amazing on film.
 
never gone said:
I do not believe for a second that someone would be able to tell the difference if they weren't told. Let's be realistic, you can wax a car with turtle wax and in the right lighting and angle it can look amazing on film.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
never gone said:
I do not believe for a second that someone would be able to tell the difference if they weren't told. Let's be realistic, you can wax a car with turtle wax and in the right lighting and angle it can look amazing on film.
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Yep. I also agree.
 
Accumulator said:
Hmmm..might be something that happens more with some paints than with others :nixweiss It's been a while since I used Souveran on a metallic, but my wife and I both liked it on Audi silver, GM Pewter, and Porsche Horizon Blue. But I *can* imagine it muting flake more than P21S and some other products.



I love it on the Jag's Rhodium Silver Metallic (single stage metallic lacquer, you don't see that very often), but I'm funny about the Jag and how I want it to look :o



Some day I'll try Zymol Vintage and that might change my opinions about what looks good.
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best looking in metalic y can get with this carnuba : itried 100% very good



1- zymol destiny best in metalic and silver color .

2- p21s more gloss than destiny but ,destiny more sharp like mirror .with destiny you can see metalic flesk one to one ..........i will show y

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never gone said:
I do not believe for a second that someone would be able to tell the difference if they weren't told. Let's be realistic, you can wax a car with turtle wax and in the right lighting and angle it can look amazing on film.
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yes yes man y right , im not pro camera man , but i think need good parking position to show from diffrent angel to fair comper result .
 
I've found that P21S tends to brighten the paint a bit. THis was the case with my Space Gray BMW. (Kind of a slate grayish color). THese pictures are deceiving and it's very hard to tell the difference unless you see it in person.
 
Boy, you guys are all wrong. I think the P21S side looks much nicer. It doesn't have all those dark splotches all over the paint. :)
 
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