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RedLight_Si

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...and I thought it was impossible to damage paint with a PC.....

PC with SSR2.5 w/LC CP orange pad and and a little bit of SSR1 w/LC CP white pad and some carelessness by me.

No,those are not clouds. Burnt that paint right off.

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Is this single stage paint?

That looks like the primer and if the car is clear coated...you would have to go threw the clear and the base coat (color) with a PC that seems pretty hard to me.....However its possible.

One thing comes to mind is how thick the paint is and was that an area that did not get enough paint on it....I've never seen anything like it.
 
Beemerboy said:
Is this single stage paint?
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No, clear coat.

Beemerboy said:
That looks like the primer and if the car is clear coated...you would have to go threw the clear and the base coat (color) with a PC that seems pretty hard to me.....However its possible.

One thing comes to mind is how thick the paint is and was that an area that did not get enough paint on it....I've never seen anything like it.
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The area is slightly curved also.
 
RedLight_Si said:
...PC with SSR2.5 w/LC CP orange pad and and a little bit of SSR1 w/LC CP white pad and some carelessness by me.
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Doesn't sound like carelessness to me, more like defective paint.
 
Yes, we all feel your pain. :down:

This can happen to anyone :yes: I tell people to use polishing pads, not cutting pads unless you intend to cut...because that's what a cutting pad does and it doesn't know how to do anything but, cut.
 
I think my machine polishing days are over. Anyone have an idea how much something like this would cost to fix? Im assuming the whole fender needs to be resprayed/repainted?

Can someone recommend some good products(paint cleaners, swirl removers/reducers, ect.) that I can use by hand to correct the finish of my car(dullness,scratches,swirls,ect.) without compromising the clear coat? Do you think that over time using gentle products and toweling the swirls/scratches will eventually disappear?

Steve
 
wait a second here, i need some more info on this . What year is the car ?

Has it always been waxed on a regular basis?

Is this a used car?


IMHO I don't think its your fault Si . It would take alot of effort to go thru clear and then the paint without you purposely trying really hard to do that . I'm thinking that the paint was real thin on top of the fender from factory or from previuos detailers .


Pls don't let this freak you out and give up the PC..
 
You shouldn't give up machine polishing, it's still the most effective way of doing things. Only one other time have I seen a PC do damage like this (some genius over at Autopia sat there at speed 6 with a yellow LC pad and diamond cut for 20-30 minutes while pushing down on the PC, went right through that paint). If you weren't being aggressive with your PC (and it doesn't sound like you were) than this is a paint defect, the paint at that point may have been cured incorrectly and was left much softer than the surrounding paint. If it's a factory original spray then you are entitled a respray on the offending fender.
 
RedLight_Si said:
I think my machine polishing days are over. Anyone have an idea how much something like this would cost to fix? Im assuming the whole fender needs to be resprayed/repainted?

Can someone recommend some good products(paint cleaners, swirl removers/reducers, ect.) that I can use by hand to correct the finish of my car(dullness,scratches,swirls,ect.) without compromising the clear coat? Do you think that over time using gentle products and toweling the swirls/scratches will eventually disappear?

Steve
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I can't see how that happened. Have you always had the car? If not, I would guess someone has wetsanded there before and reduced the clear. Is there a texture?
I would go to a detail shop and ask them to recommend a painter. I've only been in this town 5 months, and I know from customer testimony and dealers which refinishers do what kind of job. I can find a cheap guy that does quality stuff, a mid-range shop that can go mild or spicy, or a top dollar shop. I'm sure a local detailer can do the same and let you know if there are other options.
 
Wow thats crazy!! From what you told us its almost impossible to burn the paint . NOw you just have to convince the company of yoru car that. Good luck is all i can say. Car dealers are hard people to work with and they will likely try to stick the blame on you. Dont give up on the pc and realy fight for what you deserve which sounds like a new repaint.

Greg
 
Hawaiianelement said:
wait a second here, i need some more info on this . What year is the car ?
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Its a 2003.

Hawaiianelement said:
Has it always been waxed on a regular basis?
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Yes, it almost always has had layer of protection on it.


Hawaiianelement said:
Is this a used car?
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I am the original owner.


Hawaiianelement said:
IMHO I don't think its your fault Si . It would take alot of effort to go thru clear and then the paint without you purposely trying really hard to do that . I'm thinking that the paint was real thin on top of the fender from factory or from previuos detailers.
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Im starting to think it wasnt my fault either. However, I have polished it twice before,very recently at that, with Zaino Z:PC with an LC orange pad and the stock white pad. Im in question as to how much of the clear coat is left. I dont want to lose it. The only other time that Im aware of someone working the paint was the dealership's body shop not long after I bought it. There was a rough spot in the fenders (right next to the mirrors). The guy I believe said he used a light polish/compound.


Hawaiianelement said:
Pls don't let this freak you out and give up the PC..
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Im trying not to, but I do freak out really easy,especially when it comes to my car.
 
tubafeak said:
You shouldn't give up machine polishing, it's still the most effective way of doing things. Only one other time have I seen a PC do damage like this (some genius over at Autopia sat there at speed 6 with a yellow LC pad and diamond cut for 20-30 minutes while pushing down on the PC, went right through that paint). If you weren't being aggressive with your PC (and it doesn't sound like you were) than this is a paint defect, the paint at that point may have been cured incorrectly and was left much softer than the surrounding paint. If it's a factory original spray then you are entitled a respray on the offending fender.
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I am out of warranty and the car is about 2.5 years old. It would probably be very difficult proving that it wasnt my fault. How do you think I should go about trying to prove fault on the factory? The car seems to have a problem with paint chips also. My hood and front bumper are full of them.
 
AHA!!! now we have more information. I think that rock chips is a common problem and would also be an environmental issue as you could not prove you don't drive in an area where lots of stones get kicked up during normal driving. On the other hand if the dealer has records of doing some work on your vehicle on that panel, and it turns out they caused the problem, it doesn't matter how long it's been. Take it back to the dealer's body shop again and show them the spot... :yes:
 
...and don't be afraid to do the rest of the vehicle, but use only polishing and finishing pads and just be watchful and careful.
 
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