I would like to hear everyone's method of applying one-step products (KAIO, poliseal, D151, etc.). Assuming a DA is used, how thoroughly do you work the product on the finish and about how long does it normally take you to apply the product to a medium sized car, not including the time needed to buff off the residue? I guess what I'm really asking is...how different in procedure is it compared to say working in 2'x2' sections using products solely dedicated to full paint correction? Generally, how much of a work time is needed for one-step products to achieve mild to moderate correction?
One-step product application?
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imported_Ivan Rajic
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From my experience, it's different from product to product. D151 is roughly the same work time as M205, maybe a bit less, so I work it in a similar fashion. It takes roughly 1.5hrs to do a medium sized car (Camry, BMW 5 series) with D151. By "do" I mean only polish, not including wash, clay, etc. With KAIO, I don't really go too long as far as work time. I would say it takes maybe an hour or so with KAIO, especially since I usually use it as a pre-clean for KSG. I haven't used Poliseal enough to comment, but from my short experience it depends a lot on how much product you use. It has a fairly long work time if a lot of product is used, but you can speed it up with less product. Hope that helps.
imported_Ivan Rajic
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clnfrk said:
That's extremely subjective and comes with experience. I generally apply medium to light pressure with all AIO products, except with D151 I may apply a bit more pressure sometimes on the initial couple passes.
Junebug
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In my limited experience with M151, it works better with a rotary. If you use a PC, be sure to work the sh!t out of it, it's a be-otch to remove if you leave residue.
AeroCleanse
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clnfrk said:
Depends on how bad the paint is to start with. I've used D151, mostly by rotary but also by DA. It takes about the same time as any other polish. By rotary with a wool pad it took me 1-2hrs on the last car I did, which had pretty bad paint (VW Jetta)
Well, I have a gallon of D151 arriving later on today along with some other stuff and was going to use that on a couple of cars I have lined up for tomorrow. I was under the impression that application would be similar to applying waxes and sealants with perhaps just a tad more working in of the product. But, after reading these posts, it seems as if the time required would just about equal the first step of a full correction. I will probably use KAIO or Poliseal instead, but probably leaning more towards the KAIO.
Accumulator
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I have to be careful not to overwork KAIO lest it become hard to buff off. I even quit using the Cyclo for that product because I had too many headaches.
I haven't used KAIO or Poliseal, but I think that you will get the most correction with the D151 since it has more abrasives in it. Using it with something like a Hydrotech Cyan pad, you can get some great correction and finish. I believe it will be much more than the Poliseal. Can anyone else chime in with real world experience with both?