On average, how many hours do you guys spend on a 1-step?

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pinoyheat551

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After switching to a flex DA, i've noticed that its taking me more time to complete a 1 step job. On average, how many hours do you guys spend on a 1-step job (no interior) just exterior.
 
pinoyheat551 said:
After switching to a flex DA, i've noticed that its taking me more time to complete a 1 step job. On average, how many hours do you guys spend on a 1-step job (no interior) just exterior.
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It's really hard to say since every car will be different. Also, at least in my opinion, there are 2 different kinds of one-step jobs, depending on budget. A "correction"-type one step with something like D300 or Menz PF will take longer than a "quick shine"-type one step with something like Poli-seal or an AIO. You can't expect much correction from an AIO, even an abrasive one like Poli-Seal, so I don't work the areas as long. For a lot of people, that's really all they're after anyway. I'd say for a correction one-step, maybe 5-8 hours from start to finish. For a quick shine, maybe 3-4 hours.
 
mikenap said:
It's really hard to say since every car will be different. Also, at least in my opinion, there are 2 different kinds of one-step jobs, depending on budget. A "correction"-type one step with something like D300 or Menz PF will take longer than a "quick shine"-type one step with something like Poli-seal or an AIO. You can't expect much correction from an AIO, even an abrasive one like Poli-Seal, so I don't work the areas as long. For a lot of people, that's really all they're after anyway. I'd say for a correction one-step, maybe 5-8 hours from start to finish. For a quick shine, maybe 3-4 hours.
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Yeah thats pretty accurate. For my $200 1-Step that does include interior, where I use 205 and a Uber Orange pad on the GG DA, to basically clean up some of the lighter scratches/swirls and shine the paint will take me anywhere from 3-5 hours. For ones if I was using my Dewalt or Flex and SIP with a Uber Green or Orange pad, will take about 5-8 hours pending on the size of the vehicle.
 
mikenap said:
You can't expect much correction from an AIO, even an abrasive one like Poli-Seal, so I don't work the areas as long. For a lot of people, that's really all they're after anyway.
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As well liked as Poli-seal is, in my book its a letdown. There are much better AIOs for correcting, and much much much better for durability. The only thing it has going for it is ease of use. Its great for people that take great care of their car and just need minor correction after a clay. But for the people that really want a one-step because they don't want to blow a lot of money, there are much better products. M66 or D151 both shred through swirls on anything but rock hard paint. For paint in good shape ZAIO looks amazing and really lasts. I dunno, as much as I like Optimum products, I'm frustrated by Poli-seal.
 
Wash, clay, polish (Uno or 205), seal...6 to 7 hours. With an AIO I'm probably about 4 hours because of one less step and I dont tape off trim.
 
Dan said:
As well liked as Poli-seal is, in my book its a letdown. There are much better AIOs for correcting, and much much much better for durability. The only thing it has going for it is ease of use. Its great for people that take great care of their car and just need minor correction after a clay. But for the people that really want a one-step because they don't want to blow a lot of money, there are much better products. M66 or D151 both shred through swirls on anything but rock hard paint. For paint in good shape ZAIO looks amazing and really lasts. I dunno, as much as I like Optimum products, I'm frustrated by Poli-seal.
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FK215 is a something I truly love for this reason. I sell a lot of it as well because it cleans tremendously but when paired with an orange pad can do some pretty impressive improvement/correction.



I personally like poliseal but I needed something that closed a gap a little better. I can make it around a car with Poliseal in less than an hour, but 215 because of the package in it takes at least an hour or 2(i probably put extra time into polishing with it).



Dedicated corrective 1 steps typically take 4-8 hours depending on the complexity of the car.



Good to see people still loving M66, that product made me a lot of money :).
 
I never use AIO's at my shop so all one steps are corrective. Wash, clay, correction ( usually PC/BS Yellow/Power Finish ) and sealant will take 8 hours for cars and up to ten for full size pick ups and SUVs.
 
pinoyheat551 said:
After switching to a flex DA, i've noticed that its taking me more time to complete a 1 step job. On average, how many hours do you guys spend on a 1-step job (no interior) just exterior.
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A quesion needs an answer in order for me to give my response.



"Are you doing dealer or individual's vehicles?"



Do you understand that there is a large difference in the two's expections?

Grumpy
 
autoaesthetica said:
FK215 is a something I truly love for this reason. I sell a lot of it as well because it cleans tremendously but when paired with an orange pad can do some pretty impressive improvement/correction.



I personally like poliseal but I needed something that closed a gap a little better. I can make it around a car with Poliseal in less than an hour, but 215 because of the package in it takes at least an hour or 2(i probably put extra time into polishing with it).
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FK215 is truly awesome. If it could provide better durability I'd totally ditch ZAIO for it. It corrects very well and finishes down amazingly. And it doesn't leave a mess.



detailfanatic said:
I never use AIO's at my shop so all one steps are corrective. Wash, clay, correction ( usually PC/BS Yellow/Power Finish ) and sealant will take 8 hours for cars and up to ten for full size pick ups and SUVs.
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Hmm, that's surprising. I'd think someone detailing for money would love AIOs. While some can be a compromise, there are quite a few that doing several steps in one very well.
 
Dan said:
Hmm, that's surprising. I'd think someone detailing for money would love AIOs. While some can be a compromise, there are quite a few that doing several steps in one very well.
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Typically the durability is very lacking. I have used a couple that corrected quite well, but the durability wasn't very good. If I have to take the time to apply another coat of sealant to get the desired durability, I may as well use that time to do a decent single stage correction in the first place. If the durability isn't at least 4 months, it's not goodenough.
 
I tend to use an AIO for its cleaning power, plus the fact it would start a base for protection.



We don't use AIO's as part of a "detail" merely as part of a package for vehicles that are pretty close to our regular customers or are in good shape as my primary concern is that it cleans the paint really well along with ridding it of accumulation.
 
And I forgot to mention, I am always topping with something significant for protection. As good as they are, it makes perfect sense that a Jack of many trades product just can't be superior on one thing.
 
detailfanatic said:
Typically the durability is very lacking. I have used a couple that corrected quite well, but the durability wasn't very good. If I have to take the time to apply another coat of sealant to get the desired durability, I may as well use that time to do a decent single stage correction in the first place. If the durability isn't at least 4 months, it's not goodenough.
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I can see that, the only real durability AIO in my book is ZAIO.
 
I rarely do true one steps exteriors, my one steps mean 1 polishing step. With the correction you can get using the new Meguiars MF pads, using D300 and the cutting pad for moderate defects and Optimum Hyper Polish and the finishing pad for minor defects, I can ONR, clay, 1 DA polishing step, Opti-Seal, plus vacuum, tires/fenderwells and glass in and out in 2.5 hours on small to medium sized cars. Claying while washing with ONR saves a bunch of time. The MF pads do a lot of work quickly so that speeds up the polishing process. Obviously, if the paint has excessive contamination, or needs any spot correction, it takes longer. The people who just want one polishing step are more interested in protection and shine than absolutely swirl free paint. Now that the MF pads are out and polishes seem to be improving at a very fast rate, I can give my one step customers a decent amount of correction and still keep the price reasonable for the time spent.
 
Using products like ONR to wash and Opti-Seal as my LSP save me some serious time. Plus both products work amazingly well.
 
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