Old MBz SL convertible w/3.5 V8, Larz Anderson :)

tom p.

tom p.

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I thought I'd post these pictures up for y'all to enjoy during lunch time. These fotos are from a few weekends ago (Larz Anderson, MoT in Brookline MA) at Germancarfest XX.



These unique conversion was prepared by Bob Hatch who is very well-known to MBz enthusiasts here in the Boston area. I believe this car is for sale. The detail work was quite extraordinary and these fotos don't really do it justice.





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Hey, that really *is* a nice piece!



I notice it still has the reverse-pattern gearshift, wonder which transmission they used with the V8 swap :confused:



Yeah, Hatch & Sons does great work...
 
I think that shift pattern design was standard as pictured. My father had a auto 1971 car and I recall it looked exactly like that.
 
tom p. said:
I think that shift pattern design was standard as pictured. My father had a auto 1971 car and I recall it looked exactly like that.
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Gee, I'm just *too* foggy on this stuff; I knew the sixes had that reverse pattern but I didn't know about the V8s. For the life of me I can't remember which pattern the 6.3 had :nixweiss :o but I *thought* it was the "regular" one. I know the next-gen SLs (W..uh..W???..W107 maybe? Sheesh I'm getting old) with the 3.5/4.5 V8s had the regular one....



hambone575- Lucky you! What a great car to have. I *bet* you love it :xyxthumbs
 
I detailed that *EXACT* year and model Benz, color too.



I recently saw the car at the owner's office sitting under a tree, not driven for the past few months. It is covered in this algae-slime.



He is getting his garage re-done so his classic is sitting out in the elements in a parking lot. Go figure.



That's a pretty sweet car! My friend has a baby blue 1978 Jaguar with a Chevy 350 crate motor that was swapped in.
 
Spilchy said:
My friend has a baby blue 1978 Jaguar with a Chevy 350 crate motor that was swapped in.
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The Jag-nut in me wants to say "sacrilege" but the practical guy in me (who once did that swap) is telling the Jag-nut to shove it ;)
 
Hatch & Sons does top notch Mercedes work. They used to have a dealership on Rt. 20 in Wayland, but I think it got bought by Chambers Motor Cars and is now a Land Rover dealership.



That car really does look amazing though!! Wasn't German car day at the MOT on Father's day? It usually is and that's why I can't go. I also missed Italian Car Day this year as I was out of town for a wedding. :( Maybe you were at Mercedes Benz day. I think that's typically in August or September.
 
Those guys do some real top shelf restoration work. That car is amazing !!! I regularly detail both a 1969 280 SL and another 230 SL (same owner) and although the 280 is in similar condition, the color of that one makes it so much more appealing (his is silver/black) !!! Did you know the asking price? I would believe about $32-$37k.



Great pics BTW, and thanks for sharing !!!
 
Clean Dean said:
Did you know the asking price? I would believe about $32-$37k.



Great pics BTW, and thanks for sharing !!!
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Thanks.



No, but I'd suspect it's far north of the price you mention. A friend bought a stock 1970 280SL from him 7 years ago and it was more than the price you mention - - it was very nice, lo miles. He does big $$$ cars.
 
Not too far north from that number. The market for these Pogoda roof SL's is still somewhat soft. Unrestored super low mile 280 SL (under 20k) top out in the low-mid $40k range. I have yet to see a 280 SL crack $50k, but I would not be surprised if it happens often at Barrett Jackson.



My guestimate was based on the milage.



I wish I had the dough and the space to buy one of these for myself while they are still relative bargains.
 
Pagodas from the Benz Classic Center *start* mighty high...the one I read about recently (280 SL, no hard top) wasn't perfect and it was priced in the mid-70s!



I sometimes call and price stuff that they have at Hatch & Sons, and their cars usually seem reasonable, at least for their level of work; they had a 6.3 that was a relative bargain at low-30s for a *very* nice driver that could be shown in driven class with a good chance of winning.
 
tom p. said:
I think that shift pattern design was standard as pictured. My father had a auto 1971 car and I recall it looked exactly like that.
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yeah its standard. There was a 69 benz 300 sel with the 6.3 that i was interested in buying (gorgeous white) and the shift pattern was like that. its pretty trick
 
Accumulator,



Here was a 1970 300 SEL I sold earlier this year. It was a complete frame off in 1989 and driven less than 10k since that time. Car was very nice, and the air bags were at 100%. I currently have a 1971 300 SEL 4.5, but she is undergoing some TLC and she is basically diassembled.



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Neverless it had 100k miles on it and I was happy to get near $20k for it.
 
Clean Dean- Even for "only a 3.5" that appears to have been a lot of car for the money. With stuff like the suspension done and the undercarriage presumably nice, the tough stuff shouldn't be a problem for quite a while. Lots of good times for the new owner. You didn't sell it to a guy named "Lenny" did you?
 
Lots of good times for the new owner. You didn't sell it to a guy named "Lenny" did you?
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Accumulator,



The car sold overseas off ebay (Germany). I found this car in my local newspaper on Saturday morning while having breakfast with my kids. I was at his door with cash in hand 2 hours later !!!



BTW... I just picked up a 1971 300 SEL 6.3 !!! My first ever !!! I simply cannot wait to get her !!!



Check your PM.
 
Now that is a W113 Pagoda SL I could live with. My 1968 280SL for thoses who do not now about these cars have a very busy engine and rear end gearing stock they run to four grand at 60 miles an hour. The cars are geared for the autobaun were speeds of 100MPH are no big deal for hous on end with the 6 cylinder M130 Enjection motor. The W113 was the First Mercedes-Benz designed with crumple zones front and rear to protect passengers in an accident. It was also the last of the hand made SLs from Singlefingen to come from Mercedes Benz. The pagoda SL as it was coined by the press for its dip in the center of the roof and high side windows that allowed easy entree and exit began as the 230SL in Geneva introduction in 1963 , in 1967 the introduction of the 250SL better tork and some twicking to suspension and last in 1968 to 1971 the last of a breed of hand build 280SL, would leave the factory . Total production from 1963 to 1971 48,000 cars of the W113 Pagoda .



Bob Geco

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Welcome to the Pagoda SL Group
 
Bob G,



Thanks for the informative yet concise summary !!! I absolutely love the W113 Pogada SL's and I am scratching my head as to why they are not demanding the dough I believe they deserve. Pristine w107 with the exception of the 81-83 single chain cars are really in demand !!! I absolutely love the w107, but I believe the Pogodas have an even better value with regard to rarity and style.



I have a customer with a few pristine W113, (have detailed them both) but I have never owned one, but I cannot wait to finally have one. I am working on one of them.:grinno:



Why are the low milage 107's demanding more $$$ in the collectible market that the W113 ?



A friend of mine sold a sub-10k mile 1988 560 SL for near $40k. I have not seen too many low mile late model 280 SLs crack $40k.



Thanks, And I will be on your board ASAP !!!
 
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