Now that DWG ( Danase Wet Glaze ) is gone forever, what are my alternatives?

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khjr

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I never even had a chance to try it... Was planning to buy a bottle this spring.



Now that it's gone, I'm wondering what my alternatives might be. I use Klasse AIO and KSG for their durability, but was thinking of trying the Zaino w/ ZFX since they can be layered without cure time.



What would be a viable alternative to be layered over, or in place of the KAIO, and under KSG or Z2?



I'm looking for something that would help cover some defects, and perhaps add a level of wetness - the KSG is rather sterile looking to me, although I love its durability.



Alternatively, does anyone have an extra bottle of DWG they can sell me?
 
If your looking for an almost direct alternative get yourself some Chemical Guys EZ Creme Glaze II.



The difference though is that it may contain some cleaners. I have no idea how light they are though. Will it affect the underlying sealant/wax? I have no clue.



Some say it doesnt have cleaners but right on the bottle it says it does. Other than that it works great and is an awesome alternative to DWG. I use it as the first step, sort of as a paint cleaner before I put a sealant on.



I personally wouldnt put anything under KSG as KSG is pretty finnicky even on its own. I cant attest to the zaino though as I havent used it.



Why not use an oil based glaze and a wax? Im sure it will fill better than the KSG or Zaino
 
Yeah, I thought about creating a thread like this. I ordered some from PakShak last night. I figure, if its as good as its supposed to be, I have no problem paying $30 for a bottle.



And from what I can find, there really isnt anything just like DWG. The closest you can get is EZCGII
 
tdekany said:
Ez creme glaze is the original product. If you prep your car properly, clean up the paint with ez creme. Top it with your lasting LSP.
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:werd: Its sad to see Bob go like this and him and his products will be missed but it's been known that DWG is a very slightly reformulated CG EZ creme. The only big difference being EZ creme has slight cleaners and DWG doesnt. Some of you guys are crazy for buying a bottle of DWG for almost double the prices now.
 
DWG gone. What ashame. It one of the only glazes you could on top of a LSP without affecting it. Maybe some one else will pick up on this product.
 
lasthope05 said:
it's been known that DWG is a very slightly reformulated CG EZ creme. The only big difference being EZ creme has slight cleaners and DWG doesnt.
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Known by whom, and based on what?



When I did a search, I found countless posts from Bob Danase rejecting your hypothesis. Bob repeatedly pointed out that, despite having color and odor in common, the DWG is NOT a reformulated EZ creme....



lasthope05 said:
Some of you guys are crazy for buying a bottle of DWG for almost double the prices now.
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Indeed, but where is DWG selling for almost double the prices now? What prices? Pakshak is selling it for ~$18, while I see EZ creme selling for ~$17 at Detailed Image.
 
If I was Bob, I'd license the DWG product mixture to another outlet like AG and make some good mailbox money. AG could re-package it as one of their house brand DG items. Gotta think it was his most popular product.
 
khjr said:
Known by whom, and based on what?



When I did a search, I found countless posts from Bob Danase rejecting your hypothesis. Bob repeatedly pointed out that, despite having color and odor in common, the DWG is NOT a reformulated EZ creme....







Indeed, but where is DWG selling for almost double the prices now? What prices? Pakshak is selling it for ~$18, while I see EZ creme selling for ~$17 at Detailed Image.
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You need to relax and take one of these. :chill: Bob might of said that it is not a reformulated EZ creme BUT did you know that Chemical Guys doesnt necessary product their own products but rebottle from someone else or CG was just a sister company to a larger one. That might be where Bob got his base forumla and told them to tweek and change some things. I've got nothing against Bob or his products but when your in business you dont want to go out and announce who made your products or what they are similar to.



Take Adams for instance. As many times as they say their products are not rebottle CG products it makes you wonder why almost every single product they have bear striking resemblence to CG products. Adams just came out with their new pads right? Well it just so happens CG has had their hexlogic pads out also. Their quick detailer, butter wax...etc I could go on.



Go back and actually try to read the thread before .... :LOLOL Post 5 specifically. Its not the actual price I that I ment but the purchase of only a single product plus shipping is crazy.
 
lasthope05 said:
You need to relax and take one of these. :chill: Bob might of said that it is not a reformulated EZ creme BUT did you know that Chemical Guys doesnt necessary product their own products but rebottle from someone else or CG was just a sister company to a larger one. That might be where Bob got his base forumla and told them to tweek and change some things. I've got nothing against Bob or his products but when your in business you dont want to go out and announce who made your products or what they are similar to.



Take Adams for instance. As many times as they say their products are not rebottle CG products it makes you wonder why almost every single product they have bear striking resemblence to CG products. Adams just came out with their new pads right? Well it just so happens CG has had their hexlogic pads out also. Their quick detailer, butter wax...etc I could go on.



Go back and actually try to read the thread before .... :LOLOL Post 5 specifically. Its not the actual price I that I ment but the purchase of only a single product plus shipping is crazy.
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Basically all you're saying now is that CG and Adams "may" be made on the same base materials, and that you “wonder” if they’re made in the same place. Technically speaking, I suppose that's true of a lot of things on Earth - i.e. they're just based on water or oil, so they're basically the same, right?



Klasse, Werkstatt, Zaino, Nu-Finish, etc. are all more alike than say, milk or sand. That said, this website is entirely devoted to the splitting of that minutiae - endless debate over which is better and why. So your conjecture that the products are the same because they “might” reference the same basic feedstocks add no value. Sure, they might act more alike on a car than say, peanut butter, but that’s not what we’re talking about to begin with.



Maybe you're right about chilling. That said, I'm not sure why people presenting unsupported conjecture as fact is irritating to others, but I know that I’m not alone in that sentiment.
 
tdekany said:
Ez creme glaze is the original product. If you prep your car properly, clean up the paint with ez creme. Top it with your lasting LSP.
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+1



I talked with Patrick from Excel and he said that same thing. So once my bottle of DWG is gone I will be switching to Ez Creme and hope for the best!
 
None of this relabeling stuff would ever have been an issue if Chemical Guys had some ethics and kept their legal agreements with distributors/wholesalers/relabelers confidential. Chemical Guys should never tell anyone that they or Warner Chemical or any other name they use manufacturers products for ABC, MNO or ZXY companies. I be quite pissed if I were Poorboys, Adams, or Danase for publicly revealing confidential business info.
 
khjr said:
Basically all you're saying now is that CG and Adams "may" be made on the same base materials, and that you “wonder” if they’re made in the same place. Technically speaking, I suppose that's true of a lot of things on Earth - i.e. they're just based on water or oil, so they're basically the same, right?



Klasse, Werkstatt, Zaino, Nu-Finish, etc. are all more alike than say, milk or sand. That said, this website is entirely devoted to the splitting of that minutiae - endless debate over which is better and why. So your conjecture that the products are the same because they “might” reference the same basic feedstocks add no value. Sure, they might act more alike on a car than say, peanut butter, but that’s not what we’re talking about to begin with.



Maybe you're right about chilling. That said, I'm not sure why people presenting unsupported conjecture as fact is irritating to others, but I know that I’m not alone in that sentiment.
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Chemical guys have their own chemists and is a sister company to Instafinish and Warner chemicals. They rebottle and wholesale chemicals to the little guys so they can get their feet started. Do you really think some of these places really make formulate and make their own products? No they out source to a place like chemicalguys/warnerchemicals/instafinish and use their base forumlas and tell them to tweek them a bit.



Look at it logically and open up your mind. Then you might actually learn a thing or two. Its common knowledge that DWG is similar to EZ creme.



If you feel the need to respond further just PM me.





:EDIT: You know, its sad that DWG is gone. I loved how it could be layered over anything. No more DWG+UPGP combo.
 
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