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:confused:Are spray waxes just as good as hand wax? what is the difference between synthetic spray wax , carnauba wax , liquid wax, paste wax, cleaner wax, lsp, spray sealant.

the options are overwhelming. what about polishes? is there a difference between rubing compound, liquid polish, ect?



Every time i think i know what im going to buy i confuse my self.



ive been looking at the board for years and am still a newb. thanks for the help.:smile1::work::work::work::work::work::work:
 
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:confused:Are spray waxes just as good as hand wax? No, paste or liquid are better than spray in most cases. what is the difference between synthetic spray wax, carnauba wax , liquid wax, paste wax, cleaner wax, lsp, spray sealant.

the options are overwhelming. what about polishes? is there a difference between rubing compound, liquid polish, ect?



Compound: takes a lot of paint away and leaves scratches behind.



Polish: takes out compound scratches and light marring.




Every time i think i know what im going to buy i confuse my self.



ive been looking at the board for years and am still a newb. thanks for the help.:smile1::work::work::work::work::work::work:
 
IMO and experience, synthetic waxes offer more durability, however, carnuaba waxes produce a more wet, deep gloss look. Spray waxes and spray sealants are good for in between regular waxing, but offer much less protection. LSP stands for last step product, so depending on what you are usuing, will differ an answer. Compunding will help in removing moderate to major defects while leaving finer defects and polishes will refine the defects. Kind of like sand paper...there are different grits...compunds are equivalent to more course grits and polishes are equvalent less course grits.
 
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IMO you're overthinking the LSP ("Last Step Product", i.e., wax/sealant). I'd just buy a bottle of Collinite 845 Insulator Wax, a hybrid product that combines the attributes of both wax and sealant. It does't even stain black plastic/rubber trim, so you can just wipe it on the exterior and buff it off with no headaches. Looks fine, lasts a long time, cleans up well. Simple way to take the LSP part out of the equation when you're starting to get serious about detailing.



As noted, "compounds" are just more aggressive/abrasive "polishes".



IMO LSPs, compounds, and waxes are given way too much attention and consideration, whereas what really oughta be emphasized is washing/drying in a way that doesn't mess up the paint. You wax every few months. You (oughta only)compound/polish once a year at the absolute most. But you wash/dry all the time and that's how most marring occurs. Work on what you do the most.
 
Spray waxes just as good as Hand wax?



There are paste, liquid and spray waxes. With regards to paste waxes, you can get hard and soft waxes too boot.

Matter of preference really but generally speaking, spray waxes are general not as good as paste or liquid.



As for Hand Wax.. - that's just a marketing thing. Most people apply waxes by hand. However, there are certain types and techniques were you can apply them by machine (especially sealants).



Synthetic spray wax, carnauba wax , liquid wax, paste wax, cleaner wax, lsp, spray sealant.



LSP just means Last Step Product.



CleanerWax has some light cleaning properties. Don't think of it like a true polish.



Spray wax/sealant is just that, in a spray bottle.



Liquid/Paste is just that. Liquid form in a bottle vs. paste in a tin.



Wax vs. Sealant vs. Wax/Sealant - Sealant typically means a synthetic polymer vs. a carnuba based product. However, there are products that are a mix of carnuba and synthetic sealants. Technically speaking, waxes seal paint from the elements as well. Sealants being primarly synthetic typically bond better and have longer durability but that often has to do more with how the paint is prepared before the LSP application.



One class you missed were Glazes - not technically as LSP but some do use it as such (my neighbour for example who refuses to understand what a glaze is). They are a oily product to hide some very minor marring and gives a wet look to the wax topper. Typically not used under a sealant as it would interfere with the sealants cross linking to the clear.



Also Quick Detailers. Typically a highly lubricating wax embedded spray liquid used after washes to provide some extra protection inbetween waxing of the paint. Typically used after each wash or to remove loss dust from the paint vs. a full wash.



What about polishes? is there a difference between rubing compound, liquid polish, ect?



All compounds and polishes are liquid.



Compounds are very aggressive products and as a rule of thumb, need to be applied by some type of polisher. There are different gradees of compounds - typically rated in how deep of sanding scratch they can remove. 800grit, 1200grit, 1500grit etc. The smaller the grit, the deeper the scratch and the more aggressive the polish is.



Polishs are less aggressive and also to remove swirls and used to remove compound hazing. Some can be used by hand but typically used with a polisher.



Cleaners are even less aggressive still and typically chemical cleaning vs. abrasive polishing. Can be used by hand.



So .. things you want to read up on:



Washes: Sudsy type, cirtus type (stripper), lubricating type, NoRinse Formula types

Claying: Mild to moderate abrasive

Compounds: Dimenshing abrasive type vs. Non-dimenshing abrasive; different techniques used to compound each type

Polishes: Dimenshing absrasive type vs. Non-dimenshing absravie; different techniques used to polish each type

LSP: Sealants, Waxes, Glazes

Machines: Random Orbitor Polishes, Cyclo, Flex, Rotary Polisher

Pads: Wool, Foam .. types of foam

Wheel cleaners: Acid formulation vs. Non acidic, pH Neutral etc.



Towels: 100% Cotton vs. Microfiber; then quality of microfiber (70/30, 80/20 blends; weights per inch etc.) Then how to wash Microfiber as it can melt in dryers etc.
 
Wow! Thank you all, I feel like i have really figured out what i need to know for now. But i will continue to learn from all of you guys and gals . thank you so much for your help!
 
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