No. 4 on GuruReports and not a single user?

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asennad

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According to Guru Reports Armour All Protective Barrier came 4th ( I assume they mean AA Spray On Polish Protective Barrier).





1- Zaino (A-)

2- P21S (B+)

3- Klasse (B)

4- Armor All Protective Barrier (B-)



And of the top 4 this is the only product I can buy at my local store.



So how come I did a search and can't find anybody who has even mentioned it?



Maybe they should repackage it under some foreign designer name and everybody here will be tripping over themselves to try it.
 
I read the report and I honestly am not sure why it is rated so highly, other than it is readily available, easy to use and cheap. Actual performance was rather average, and that is what most people here really care about, hence, there are far better choices if you are willing to pay a bit more and look a little harder to find the products.



The average once a year waxer will probably be happy with the Armor All wax though.
 
Guru Reports tested Armour All paste wax not the spray or liquid A.A. paste and liquid are no longer made any product you see on the shelf is old .
 
The report, although enjoyable to read, is very subjective. I have never seen that wax at any store excpet at a Honda dealer where I take one of my cars.
 
Why use product #4? :p I mean, look what products are number 1, 2, and 3. When I went car shopping for my Acura I was driving a Mustang. I loved that car and the only thing I would sell it for was my GSR. I had a dealer ask me what my second choice would be if he couldn't locate a GSR sedan for me. I told him that I was driving my second choice. Then he asked me what my third choice would be. My third choice?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol Why would I want my third choice when I own my second choice? That's kind of like that list. If I have access to Z, P21s, or Klasse then why would I use something made by Armor All? I mean, its number four on the list. That means it is the third loser in the competition. :lol
 
Maybe they should repackage it under some foreign designer name and everybody here will be tripping over themselves to try it.



You mean like 'Der WaxinOil'? How about GelbScheisse? :D
 
Not many (if any) people on Autopia use the AA wax simply because it's a cleaner wax and such products don't usually fit into the scheme of the typical "Autopian Detail". It's probably one of the better things to suggest to your non-enthusiast friends though. Smells like coconut milk or something too.... yes I sniffed it! :p



I think the Waxtest scored it highly because they give scoring weight to availablity, as well as performance (looks), ease of use, and durability. It seemed to last kind of long and they judged the appearance to be pretty good, so I'm sure that helped.



asennad, no that is not the product. They tested a paste wax.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
...If I have access to Z, P21s, or Klasse then why would I use something made by Armor All? I mean, its number four on the list. That means it is the third loser in the competition. :lol
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A rather weak and negative analogy don't you think? Using that line of thinking, Klasse is the second loser, coming in just ahead of the AA. And we all know how highly you regard the wonders of Klasse.



I concur that labeling (read marketing) often has far more to do with the perceived performance of a product than does the actual performance. If there is a poor perception of the manuafacturer, then expectations of that product are automatically lower. This is true across a variety of products, and not just car waxes.
 
Scoring for availability really changes the results significantly, this gives points to all the products you can find in Wal-Mart, Target, etc. and takes points aways from wax's from smaller higher end companies. Just my thoughts.
 
I never said that Klasse was the best prodcut in the world. AIO is a damn fine cleaner though. I'm sure that people who are more knowlegable about cleaning products than I am could test it against other cleaners and come up with some kind of ranking system but that would still just be their educated opinion of the product. SG is pretty awesome stuff though. You have to also consider that they didn't test everything. Where are all the other sealants on that list? Where are the Blackfires and #20s and Platinums? I don't have the report but I believe that at least a few sealants were left out of the testing. The report is an excellent reference and a great education but it is far from being the Bible on car care products. That book really can't be written. Its kind of like a Consumer Reports for car care.



I've never even seen this Armor All product. That says something about why its number 4. If it is a product that is available at every PepBoys and AutoZone in the country then that could explain why I haven't seen it. Generally people who are serious about protection aren't looking on the shelf at AutoZone for the best product. Nothing against things at AutoZone, of course. I do get a lot of things there. I've stopped looking at the waxes though. Anything I can get at AutoZone I can probably get online with the rest of the things I need to order.
 
AA diamond shield car wax paste was my first can of wax. It smells just like Platinum car wash. a Tropical Pina Colada smell to it. It was a decent wax I purchased for $7. It is what lead to the autopia addiction July of 1999. Remember the old bravenet forums as if it was yesterday.....NOT, BN was terrible. I'll go look at the can when I organize my detailing supplies Sunday afternoon. I think I conviced my Mom to let me purchase a smaller version of Green Monster's cabinet. Only like $110 or so at Staples.



I don't think they make it any more Anthony, but I can scrummage up a sample of it though if you want to test it. Its like a thick cream consitancy. Goes well in a tupperware container. Use a spoon to transfer it. If not to use, its good to smell.......
 
Believe it or not, not everyone on this board wants the “number one� product if they can find a good substitute more easily and for less money. My priorities are protection, durability, obtainability, and cost.
 
Blackfire was tested. Finished in 11th place.



Platinum was not on the market then.



I'm not sure Steve was even aware of Meguiar's #20. I mean, I rarely read about it here at Autopia. I wasn't aware of it until someone at Autopia mentioned using it. And I've been using Meguiar's products for 25 years.



There are plenty of obscure products that weren't tested for a number of reasons. I think the focus was to test a broad range of products from a variety of sources.



Some of the people I communicate with on other forums refuse to order car care products online or via mail order. They want something they can drive to their local parts store and buy right now. So its important to test those kind of products rather than the boutique, elitist products which cater to a very narrow niche of the market. That's where the bulk of the market share is as well as the bulk of consumer's interest.
 
bretfraz said:


Some of the people I communicate with on other forums refuse to order car care products online or via mail order. They want something they can drive to their local parts store and buy right now. So its important to test those kind of products rather than the boutique, elitist products which cater to a very narrow niche of the market. That's where the bulk of the market share is as well as the bulk of consumer's interest.
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Good points, Bret, but I think what some have said is basically that Autopians aren't thinking like the average consumer, and that they want the best products available.



A case in point are MF's. Go and tell someone that you spent 12 bucks on a cloth to dry your car with. See how they look at you! :eek: You'd be lucky to see them drying their cars at all, and at that, it maybe old T-shirts and underwear. :D
 
asennad said:
Believe it or not, not everyone on this board wants the “number one� product if they can find a good substitute more easily and for less money. My priorities are protection, durability, obtainability, and cost.
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Maybe, but when you have something like S100 that is only $15 and readily available at Harley dealers (giving one the opportunity to drool over the latest Softail or V-Rod...:bow ), very few people who are on a detailing enthusiast board are even going to bother with a wax that costs less than 5 bucks.



The type of person who usually uses a very low priced consumer wax probably doesn't wax very often and pretty much any product is going to make an improvement in shine. A cleaner wax like AA is perfect for them. That type of person is also very unlikely to bother with a site like Autopia.
 
tetz said:
Maybe they should repackage it under some foreign designer name and everybody here will be tripping over themselves to try it.



You mean like 'Der WaxinOil'? How about GelbScheisse? :D
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Juat rename it "Dawn protectant". It will be an Autopian favorite and rise to mythical status overnight. Sorry guys, couldnt help myself.......Flame away!
 
I found a gallon of Megs #26 fpr $9.95 .. now wouldn't I have been dumb not to buy it ?





Cheap + Good = :xyxthumbs





Basically I'm not convinced something expensive (such as Zaino) is worth the money you have to lay out just to make yer vehicle shiny.



I guess it's a law of diminishing returns for me.



Me ?



S100 = $15 bucks = Happy Camper.



Bit like the maniacs thats go out n spend 10 grand on a CD player when my $200 Panasonic sounds just as good.
 
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