New poorboys world ceramic products

Interesting, considering PB has never really had a truly awful product. I like the fact that it can be layered when the coating is coming short to its life span.
 
Interesting that the title includes SuperHydrophobic, I wonder if the product lives up to the scientific meaning of its name.
 
I bought their new selections. I`m looking forward to trying them out.

Side note I still can`t part with anything Zaino in my boxes. Nor would I use any.

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TheMeanGreen said:
I like the fact that it can be layered when the coating is coming short to its life span.
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Didn’t see that on sight must of missed it. I’m wondering if all ceramics may be layerable. Gyeon in new Cancoat video recommended it as a coating maintenance. Decon wash and top your coating. Now poor boys is saying it.



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It be nice if the told you all what comes with their packages. The ceramic experience looks like an awesome deal if your just starting. Would like to know how many MF towels and type and what those small bottles on top are....


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Coatings=crack said:
It be nice if the told you all what comes with their packages. The ceramic experience looks like an awesome deal if your just starting. Would like to know how many MF towels and type and what those small bottles on top are....


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It`s a small bottle of super slick n suds as well as a small bottle of professional polish. They have posted most of those photos on Facebook over the past week promoting the heck out of this.

I`m interested in trying it out. I wonder why it has a dark blue/aqua colored tint?
 
Coatings=crack said:
Didn’t see that on sight must of missed it. I’m wondering if all ceramics may be layerable. Gyeon in new Cancoat video recommended it as a coating maintenance. Decon wash and top your coating. Now poor boys is saying it.
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Have done that quite frequently on coatings that weren`t quite `All they could be` after a few months or even as late as a year. Gtechniq CSL topped with CanCoat has been a far better combo for me than CSL + either EXOV4 or C2V3 on top of the CSL.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Didja ever find the land of Milk & Honey?

https://www.autopia.org/forums/detailing-product-reviews/19015-makes-zaino.html#post192682
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Ha ha, I guess that`s an old Detail City thread, I didn`t realize those were still mixed in here. I was never a member there. I thought you were going to link that heated Autopia thread where "of course Sal does his own manufacturing" "no he doesn`t!" when I was going to settle it by driving down to the Zaino address to have a look at his "facility" until by Googling it I found out the address was a Mailboxes, Etc. Last time I checked his address came back to a performance parts place which I guess must be a friend`s that he`s using for a mail drop.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Didja ever find the land of Milk & Honey?

https://www.autopia.org/forums/detailing-product-reviews/19015-makes-zaino.html#post192682
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Talk about resurrection of an old (13 1/2 year) thread. Same old-same old, he said-she said.

It is "somewhat" interesting, though, how these "who-makes-what-for-whom" accusations about car-care products and manufacturers are made. Some of it is conjecture, some of it based on personal observation, some on hearsay what was read on internet forums or social media, some of it is innuendos of spite or vengeance. It is sometimes "difficult" to separate truth from fiction or lies, or what some would call "fake news" or even conspiracy theory.
I will say this: this type manufacturing and selling (or re-selling, to be more correct) is the product of our free market and free enterprise system or economy.
"Buy low, sell high." "There is a sucker born every minute." "It is the same as the name brand, but without the advertising mark-up"

Are their re-labeled identical car-care products sold by multiple re-sellers or vendors? Yes.
Do you pay more from one over another? Yes, but that is how a re-seller makes money in a free enterprise system. It is just that buyers do not like to be taken for a ride or "fleeced", and with social media and these forums, individuals are more than willing to let the world know about their experience and why or how it happened. (Another product of American society: Free Speech).

GM does it selling identical vehicle platforms across three different "brands", though they are "tweeked" with sheet metal design and options availability to justify their price difference, and rightly so (An extension of 1950`s GM CEO Alfred P. Sloan marketing principles)
Collinite wax sells some of their products under different labels and product numbers: one for boats, and one for vehicles. (Check the MSDS Sheets for proof) I call that target marketing.

Does it make a difference? It does when you are the buyer and feel like you got a raw deal or conned. Another free enterprise cliche: Caveat emptor- Buyer beware! (I forgot: Captain Obvious is also Captain [Latin] Cliche.)
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Have done that quite frequently on coatings that weren`t quite `All they could be` after a few months or even as late as a year. Gtechniq CSL topped with CanCoat has been a far better combo for me than CSL + either EXOV4 or C2V3 on top of the CSL.
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I actually did the same thing with my car wearing CanCoat in the fall of `18. However, I layered it because I was lazy. The current application was still looking pretty good, but I wasn`t confident it would make it until the following spring. Instead of doing a full decon/polish/application I simply did a good wash, wiped it down with Prep, and applied another layer. It went on just fine and was still going strong when I polished out the car the following summer.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Ha ha, I guess that`s an old Detail City thread, I didn`t realize those were still mixed in here. I was never a member there. I thought you were going to link that heated Autopia thread where "of course Sal does his own manufacturing" "no he doesn`t!" when I was going to settle it by driving down to the Zaino address to have a look at his "facility" until by Googling it I found out the address was a Mailboxes, Etc. Last time I checked his address came back to a performance parts place which I guess must be a friend`s that he`s using for a mail drop.
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Gotta admit, like the products or not, Sal certainly worked up quite a following that continues on today. Lotsa Corvette folks still worship at the altar of Z-{whatever}...it just works for them and really, the rest is just noise if it makes you happy.

I was an avowed Z-ealot for many years, 2004 thru 2014. Sal always responded to e-mails which I thought was pretty neat. Really taught me the `less is more` edict.

I miss the days where I`d buy the $130 kit each Spring (thinking it was outrageous $$ for car care) and that`d be it for the year.

Was Sal the genesis if the "Wash with Dawn (blue) to strip the surface to prepare for application" routine? His instructions were the first I ever saw of it.

The whole thing makes for an intriguing affair

Lonnie said:
Talk about resurrection of an old (13 1/2 year) thread. Same old-same old, he said-she said.

It is "somewhat" interesting, though, how these "who-makes-what-for-whom" accusations about car-care products and manufacturers are made. Some of it is conjecture, some of it based on personal observation, some on hearsay what was read on internet forums or social media, some of it is innuendos of spite or vengeance. It is sometimes "difficult" to separate truth from fiction or lies, or what some would call "fake news" or even conspiracy theory.
I will say this: this type manufacturing and selling (or re-selling, to be more correct) is the product of our free market and free enterprise system or economy.
"Buy low, sell high." "There is a sucker born every minute." "It is the same as the name brand, but without the advertising mark-up"

Are their re-labeled identical car-care products sold by multiple re-sellers or vendors? Yes.
Do you pay more from one over another? Yes, but that is how a re-seller makes money in a free enterprise system. It is just that buyers do not like to be taken for a ride or "fleeced", and with social media and these forums, individuals are more than willing to let the world know about their experience and why or how it happened. (Another product of American society: Free Speech).

GM does it selling identical vehicle platforms across three different "brands", though they are "tweeked" with sheet metal design and options availability to justify their price difference, and rightly so (An extension of 1950`s GM CEO Alfred P. Sloan marketing principles)
Collinite wax sells some of their products under different labels and product numbers: one for boats, and one for vehicles. (Check the MSDS Sheets for proof) I call that target marketing.

Does it make a difference? It does when you are the buyer and feel like you got a raw deal or conned. Another free enterprise cliche: Caveat emptor- Buyer beware! (I forgot: Captain Obvious is also Captain [Latin] Cliche.)
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Sometimes I think there`s one guy somewhere on a small island off the coast of China that makes 99% of all coatings.

Watched a vid with the North America rep for Gyeon and he mentioned the link on their home page where you could inquire as to white-labeling their products so the opportunities are out there. Wonder if they`d bottle me a private brand of only the Skin component of Syncro to sell? I`d be a buyer for sure

I`d guess many products are identical (for all practical purposes), variations on the same theme. Always wonder just how different the PBMG families are; Pinnacle, Wolfgang, Blackfire...

I`ll admit to liking pretty little bottles so the marketing certainly plays a role as well. I figure 80% of what I like about a product/ brand is functional with the other 20% being all in my head

Still all fun though, mystery and uncertainty of origin just adds a bit to the entire experience.
 
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