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Lou K

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I just had the front bumper on my SL55 repainted to take care of a few chips and scratches on the underside of the air dam. I know that I should wait before applying a sealant or wax. How long do you recommend that I wait? In the interim is it OK to use a glaze like the Menzerna glaze?



Thanks
 
Opinions vary. I wait at least 90 days, based on my first-hand experience with how paint continues to harden for at least that long (and also based on MirrorFinishMan's queries of the paint manufacturers). During that time I use glazes, usually Meg's #5. I'm probably erring on the side of caution, but I want the paint to get as hard as possible so I'm not gonna do anything that *might* interfere with that.



Others have opined that certain "regular" LSPs are safe to use, including OCW, FK2180, and Zaino. I hear that Ford OKs OCW for post-production paintwork.
 
I also have this question: My Acura is getting completely repainted (minus jambs and under hood/hatch) and is nearly finished. Any special treatment for it to survive the end of winter weather and protect it for the oncoming summer? I have an adequate amount of product here in my basement but if there's anything that could help me keep this car in tip-top shape, could you let me know? Thanks.
 
DinosGSR said:
I also have this question: My Acura is getting completely repainted (minus jambs and under hood/hatch) and is nearly finished. Any special treatment for it to survive the end of winter weather and protect it for the oncoming summer?



Same answer :D I just use Meg's #5 during the curing period and I wash pretty frequently (gotta reapply the #5 after every wash, good thing it's *so* easy to use).



I seem to get vehicles painted all year round, and while it's not as good at protecting as a *real* LSP would be, I can't recall ever having any problems. If you simply have to drive a fresh repaint, the #5 is a lot better than nothing.



But this is a case where if somebody insisted on using one of the other presumably fresh-paint-friendly products I mentioned I sure couldn't argue against it.
 
Accumulator said:
Same answer :D I just use Meg's #5 during the curing period and I wash pretty frequently (gotta reapply the #5 after every wash, good thing it's *so* easy to use).



I seem to get vehicles painted all year round, and while it's not as good at protecting as a *real* LSP would be, I can't recall ever having any problems. If you simply have to drive a fresh repaint, the #5 is a lot better than nothing.



But this is a case where if somebody insisted on using one of the other presumably fresh-paint-friendly products I mentioned I sure couldn't argue against it.



Thanks. Yeah it'll be my daily so I can finally put the S2000 in the garage where she belongs (had a hard winter to drive through, she deserves the R&R), I just don't want to prematurely wear the paint out.



So after 90 days I can start applying waxes, etc.? I'm thinking of some NXT to bring out the shine a bit.
 
DinosGSR said:
So after 90 days I can start applying waxes, etc.? I'm thinking of some NXT to bring out the shine a bit.



That's the general rule. If I can still smell the paint outgassing (say, on a hot day or when the heaters are turned up) I'll wait longer. IIRC I waited a good four months on my S8 after I deered it and I think I waited about that long on the minivan the last time it had paintwork too.
 
Also keep in mind new paint looks, well, new.. So it isn't a shame to just keep it clean and drive it as is for 3 months. I know you want protection .. I have some new paint work as well. I have just not touched it with product. Other than Megs crystal car wash (the purple/pink ) kind. I haven't even put glaze on it, as it looks fine even in contrast to the waxed panels next to it.



I am going to polish tommorow for the first time. The contrast might be a bit more noticeable then.. but I am still going to let the panels stay untouched.



But by protecting it, you could quite possibly be doing just the opposite if you don't wait at least a month.



In my experience, and opinion -- 30 days is long enough to wait before a sealant is going to cause the paint to damage itself. However, it isn't long enough to allow the paint to harden as much as it 'COULD'. Fine line there,.. and between 45-90 days is really a tough call on how much diminishing returns you are getting on unprotected paint vs curing 'more'. If in certain climates and seasons.. a 30 day period can be more effective than a different climate/seasons 90 day cure.



IE: in 95 degree summer heat, dry, low humidity -- 30 days straight, it should bake on fairly well.



In the winter, at say, an average of 40 degrees, variable humidity,.. 90 days might equal those 30.



I akin it to setting an oven on 100degrees and baking for 90 minutes, vs 350 and baking for 30 minutes.



Same result (in my perfect analogy ;) ) -- different time periods. *I know slower cooked meat and such has a better result.. but this is paint* -



This doesn't take into account a simple cure process that occurs through time alone, regardless of weather (If the car was in a vacuum , say).



That part, I tend to speculate, occurs within the first 30 days.



After 30, the curing is much less pronounced than it was the first week, second week, third, and so on.



But, bottom line: apparently alot say the glaze is safe. Go with those who know..



You will always be safe without product application at all. ;)
 
Cause some people like to polish, seal, glaze, and wax their cars. Sort of what this forum is all about. :)



Oh and the paint is not as 'protected' as the rest being unsealed/waxed -- That worries some people who care about the durability of the paint. Catch-22 though for the first 3 months.. the paint just has to take its beating, rocks are going to hit, and so on..



It is hard for some people to wait to really clean their 'baby' up if they have taken extreme care of it thus far, esp. if it is somewhat new to them.



Others (most people) it is no big deal.. and heck, they'd probably wait forever (ie: never) to polish it.. and a year or more to wax it :)
 
IME if you have enough cars painted you can get a pretty good idea of how this whole thing works out; In some cases it's rather obvious: "gee, that polish corrected things fine last month, but now the paint is *much* harder" :think: or maybe "gee, even #80 hazes up this new paint!" :eek: I went through both of those at roughly the same time, different paint of different cars behaving differently.



Oh, and the glazes like Meg's #5 *are* safe to use; they're even "paintable".



And when it comes to whether you should wash/polish/etc. during the curing/outgassing period, note that a lot of paintjobs are wetsanded/compounded/polished after they're sprayed (and before the customer even sees the car).
 
I'll give it some time to harden, but I will definitely seal and glaze it as soon as it becomes hard enough. Keep in mind this is my work car and I do travel on a country road to get to work, so rocks will be inevitable, as well as wildlife :sadpace:



Are regular washes fine (once a week/semimonthly)? Are there any recommended washes for new paint jobs or will any standard wash product be fine?
 
I wash fresh paint whenever it needs it, never had a problem. I *would* stay away from

"wash and wax" type products. I use Griot's Car Wash exclusively now, but before that I used Meg's #62 and #00. The Gold Class isn't a fave of mine, but it oughta be OK too.



My advice still holds for a work car/daily driver, it's how I used to treat the Volvo wagon (outside 24/7/52 including winter, daily dog-hauler) when it had paintwork done.
 
Accumulator is dead on. You just don't want to 'seal' the new paint.



I have the same situation, and Wash with the pink Crystal wash -- It has no wax or other such sealants in it.



Also my paint has not been damaged , and has been washed 3 times since the respray.



(only a few panels done) -- Nonetheless I waited a week to wash the first time, then after that it didn't matter.



Just don't use any sealant, or really anything other than a friendly wash on the painted areas for at least a month, and better if you wait 90 days.
 
Sorry to bump this older thread back up, but I've got a related question on this. Is there a certain amount of time that should be waited after washing a redone area? A few days, a week?
 
RedlineIRL said:
... Is there a certain amount of time that should be waited after washing a redone area? A few days, a week?



Do you perhaps mean "*before* washing?" :confused:



If so, then the answer is no. Once the paint is dry it can be washed, just be extra careful as it'll be soft.



If not, sorry to misunderstand, please help me out here and I'll try to answer.
 
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