New Mothers CMX CERAMIC SPRAY COATING

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CMX CERAMIC SPRAY COATING - New for 2019!

It looks pretty good with decent durability and very affordable.
 
I would venture to say this is something along the lines of the “topper” sprays out there.

If it is a true coating (the way we here refer to them as) it will gel up way before the end of that large bottle and the sprayer will be useless after a single use (with the mention of sio2 and tio2)

A couple polish angel sprays mention those ingredients as well

I will guess 3-4 weeks durability with leaning on the shorter side

Cool to see them come out with this product though




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MattPersman said:
If it is a true coating (the way we here refer to them as) it will gel up way before the end of that large bottle and the sprayer will be useless after a single use (with the mention of sio2 and tio2)
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Seems as if the line between coatings and coating-like products continues to blur. At first, things like Reload, Gtechniq C2V3 and such were (IMO) always looked at as `coating maintenance` products, now they are being pushed as stand-alone sealants as well. Sometimes referred to as `SiO2 enhanced sealants`, but sealants nonetheless, which kinda implies LSP use.

Perhaps HydroSilex began the trend towards spray `ceramic coatings` as I seem to remember the initial release mentioning that. Now the spray on, rinse off products are beginning to refer to themselves as `coatings` (McKee`s 37 Hydro Blue Sio2 Coating) so it gets even more confusing. So what is a `true` coating anymore? Dependent on % of coating elements contained in a product? I dunno but I`d sure be a little upset if I went to a pro for a coating application and ended up with him/her using something like Hydro Blue or Gyeon Wetcoat...unless the price for the installation of that coating was < $50 and it was noted as a 6-month coating, which is likely even stretching it.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Seems as if the line between coatings and coating-like products continues to blur. At first, things like Reload, Gtechniq C2V3 and such were (IMO) always looked at as `coating maintenance` products, now they are being pushed as stand-alone sealants as well. Sometimes referred to as `SiO2 enhanced sealants`, but sealants nonetheless, which kinda implies LSP use.
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Not like this is anything new, we`ve never had defined language for detailing products. For how long (and maybe still) did Meg`s call every product (at least consumer products) a "wax", like NXT Wax, which had no wax in it. Zaino and Duragloss call their sealants "polish", etc. If "coating" is a word associated with good things by the consumer, you can be sure that term is going to be thrown around regardless of how we perceive the accuracy.
 
I looked at the Mother’s Forum (who knew Mother’s had a Forum?) site and they said the price was $19.99 for 24 oz and they expect it to last for 12 months. If it lasts 3 months I would be very happy. PA is the only other manufacturer that I know of that touts Tio2 in its sprays. Looking forward to this one.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Not like this is anything new, we`ve never had defined language for detailing products. For how long (and maybe still) did Meg`s call every product (at least consumer products) a "wax", like NXT Wax, which had no wax in it. Zaino and Duragloss call their sealants "polish", etc. If "coating" is a word associated with good things by the consumer, you can be sure that term is going to be thrown around regardless of how we perceive the accuracy.
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I agree. The marketing and accounting departments always win out.

If you can`t sell it and can`t make a profit on it, it`s useless.
 
Any product that has enough "gloss" will provide a degree of UV protection. Simply, if high enough gloss, it will reflect a percentage of the UVA rays away from the surface. Just a matter of degrees of reflection and how long the product maintains it`s high gloss.
 
Lots of sceptisism floating around here. It truly is a coating, not something you spray on and hose away. We have a test vehicle with a half coated hood that’s subjected to beach conditions 3 hours a day, then a drive through brush wash. Every day. Since May 1.

And the coating is still going strong, after180+ harsh washes and 500 + hours of salt spray.

We haven’t tried it on interior surfaces. I suspect the formula will need to change to be effective on glass or interior surfaces.

I trust our chemists to make a coating that won’t clog the spray head. You have to trust as technology changes, products will be improved to do what wasn’t possible prior.
 
forrest@mothers said:
I trust our chemists to make a coating that won’t clog the spray head. You have to trust as technology changes, products will be improved to do what wasn’t possible prior.
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Forrest,

Take my money!
I am ready to order a case and give every frd of mine a bottle!
 
forrest@mothers said:
Lots of sceptisism floating around here. It truly is a coating, not something you spray on and hose away. We have a test vehicle with a half coated hood that’s subjected to beach conditions 3 hours a day, then a drive through brush wash. Every day. Since May 1.

And the coating is still going strong, after180+ harsh washes and 500 + hours of salt spray.

We haven’t tried it on interior surfaces. I suspect the formula will need to change to be effective on glass or interior surfaces.

I trust our chemists to make a coating that won’t clog the spray head. You have to trust as technology changes, products will be improved to do what wasn’t possible prior.
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I’m always worried about the spray heads. When air hits most coatings they start to harden as that is what they are supposed to do. This will be the first SiO2 spray that will be on a Walmart shelf. Bubba will bring this stuff back if the spray head doesn’t work.

”180+ washes and still going strong” has got me very interested and wondering what kind of pixie dust is in that bottle. Reminds me of the “365 day” stuff from the 80’s.
 
forrest@mothers said:
Lots of sceptisism floating around here. It truly is a coating, not something you spray on and hose away. We have a test vehicle with a half coated hood that’s subjected to beach conditions 3 hours a day, then a drive through brush wash. Every day. Since May 1.

And the coating is still going strong, after180+ harsh washes and 500 + hours of salt spray.

We haven’t tried it on interior surfaces. I suspect the formula will need to change to be effective on glass or interior surfaces.

I trust our chemists to make a coating that won’t clog the spray head. You have to trust as technology changes, products will be improved to do what wasn’t possible prior.
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So this will last through a mechanical automatic car wash ? I have a Broadway soft cloth I use and it will take lsp away at the rear part behind the tires first from the spinning of it. And with only 1-2 car washes.

You got a customer for life if this will hold up to that like you said 180 washes.

It looks like an auto parts store near me can possibly order it

Thanks


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BudgetPlan1 said:
Seems as if the line between coatings and coating-like products continues to blur. At first, things like Reload, Gtechniq C2V3 and such were (IMO) always looked at as `coating maintenance` products, now they are being pushed as stand-alone sealants as well. Sometimes referred to as `SiO2 enhanced sealants`, but sealants nonetheless, which kinda implies LSP use.

Perhaps HydroSilex began the trend towards spray `ceramic coatings` as I seem to remember the initial release mentioning that. Now the spray on, rinse off products are beginning to refer to themselves as `coatings` (McKee`s 37 Hydro Blue Sio2 Coating) so it gets even more confusing. So what is a `true` coating anymore? Dependent on % of coating elements contained in a product? I dunno but I`d sure be a little upset if I went to a pro for a coating application and ended up with him/her using something like Hydro Blue or Gyeon Wetcoat...unless the price for the installation of that coating was < $50 and it was noted as a 6-month coating, which is likely even stretching it.
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It`s kinda arbitrary but I define a coating as any LSP that requires a prepped surface to be applied. Meaning once it`s cured it`ll reject additional layers and at end of life you need to polish before you put another layer down. Every sealant I can think of you can slap on an additional layer whenever you want and it`ll stick. So I lump all the Si02 sprays into the sealant category.

Now just because something doesn`t fit my definition doesn`t mean I won`t use it. If it protects like fk1000p and lasts a year on the cheap you can call it sprayable clear coat for all I care.
 
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