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I am a new member of the site but not new to detailing. I have some questions on what I need to purchase and from where I need to get it.I have a buffer and an orbital and mainly do recon on most of my details.

I now want to detail my 97 White Expedition an the wifes 06 Whte Honda Accord.The Expedition has been detailed on a regular basis and the Accord we just got last week. Both are not that bad on the exteriors but I do not want to buff them. I see you guys using orbitals with different grade pads and different waxes

This is what I need to do to eliminate the fine scratches on both cars.

1)What pads do I need to do both cars?I plan on doing the two cars on varring weekends so I am assuming they can be washed

2)What waxes/compounds do I need?

I plan on finishing off the car with Colunite Wax unless you guys can recomend something better

Thanks for the help in advance

Paul
 
Heres the deal:



All of your terms are confusing.



Buffer, orbital, etc.



What machines do you have? If its not a PC or rotary, its not worth your time trying to do swirl removal with.



Once you have that sorted out, you will probably need:

a handful of Lake Country 4" Orange, white and black pads (assuming you have a PC or will get one)



Then, you need a polish ("compound").

Something like Meguiars 205, or Optimum Polish, or Poorboys SSR 1 or 2.



Then top it with Collinite and enjoy.
 
As I said. I am not new to detailing I own a buffer and I own an orbital. but I only want to use the orbital on both of these cars. Buffing is now needed for my cars.

What suppilies do I need to only use the orbital?



Just reread your post. Can I get this sutff here? You also recomended a few things. Any one you like more than the other?

Thanks
 
COBRA93SVT- Welcome to Autopia!



There's a *whole lot* to learn about this stuff, but here's my suggestion for what you oughta do for now:



Get some 1Z Paint Polish (source: Aloha & Welcome to Our Oasis for All Your Auto Detailing, Auto Detailing Supplies, Auto Detailing Equipment, Auto Detailing Products, & Auto Detailing Accessories for all your Automobile Detailing ) and a polishing pad and just use that for now.



No, it won't get things perfect but it'll be a simple, user-friendly way to get introduced to machine polishing. The 1Z leaves a little wax behind so if you're pooped after doing the wash/clay/polish you can wait until after the next wash to do the waxing.



Using Collinite over the 1Z works great. This is the combo I used when giving my nephew-in-law a quick intro to this stuff and it worked great on his white car. He's been using the same approach since then and he's very happy with it.
 
Start small with a PC, shoot for a really shiny car. A little marring can be overlooked for a while. Clean and polished paint will look pretty good.



After a few tryouts with the pc you can go for more correction.



The 1z stuff sounds like a good direction to go. Another good line is the megs 80/82. M80 is more aggressive and may (or may not) need a followup with something more mild, like the 82.



For my fords I have had good results using M82 with a 5.5" polishing pad. It will leave the paint squeaky clean and will look great. You might need to follow up with a softer pad, though.
 
scary bill said:
..The 1z stuff sounds like a good direction to go. Another good line is the megs 80/82. M80 is more aggressive and may (or may not) need a followup with something more mild, like the 82...
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Yeah, I've probably recommended #80 almost as much as 1Z PP. I've hardly ever found #80 to need a follow-up, it has finished out ready-to-wax in all but one instance (IIRC).



The 1z Paint Polish has about the same cut as #80 (just a *bit*more aggressive IMO) but almost always finishes out OK. I somehow find it more user-friendly and most newbies seem to think it's idiot-proof.



Neither way oughta be a problem, but I really like that the 1Z leaves wax behind. Seems that people often underestimate what a big job this is, and knowing that they still have to wax (I wouldn't rely on the paint-safe polymers that #80 leaves behind the same way I would with the 1z wax) might make for cut corners.
 
Good point.



Just starting out, you will find fast that correction can be a *very* big job.



My advice is correct 1 panel at a time. If you get the results you are after, and have time/energy left--then move on to the next panel. It really helps to keep from getting fatigued, I cut less corners when I work on small projects(panel) vs. big project(truck).
 
Yeah, it *does* always take a lot more time/effort than people expect.



Not insisting on perfection can help a lot ;) And doing one panel after each of a series of washes can work well too. IMO white vehicles are especially good for this as it's not quite so much of a night-and-day difference between done/not panels, at least for casual observation purposes.
 
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