Need Some Help

Jaguar

Jaguar

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Hi All,

I have a few questions regarding PB products. Nice time for you to go on vacation Steve. :boohoo

First off, I must admit, please forgive me for my sins fellow PB and detail fanatics. I have not detailed my truck at all this year! I know I know but Ive just been busy but Im planning to rectify it this week.

I washed and used a clay bar tonight. Tomorrow I plan to use SSR2 (by hand cos still did not get a wheel). :doh

Anyways, I have both EX and EX-P plus Natty's. So my question is I think I am supposed to use EX on dark colors correct? (My truck is Burgandy). And EX-P is for light color cars right? Sorry just can't remember which. :confused:

So.. anything special I need to know (cos I can't remember) for application? Like is there any "cure time" needed? Or just let it dry then wipe it off? How many coats of EX would you recommend?

Also regarding Natty's. I see Steve now has a blue Natty's? It says it's for darker colors to? Should I get some of that stuff? Do any of you have any experience with it? How is it? How does it compare to the regular Natty's I have now?

Also, how many coats of Natty's should be applied after EX? Im thinking maybe two? And should there be a waiting period in between EX and Natty's so that it can cure?

TIA and if you need more info regarding my vehicle, just let me know.

Thanks,

Jag
 
I'll comment.....on the SSR which one are you going to use?

You need to look at polishing after the SSR process unless you are using SSR1 but even then since you have not done anything in quite some time I would recommend polishing to get the luster back.....As for the process of SSR work in 12x12 inch areas so that you can keep good control over the product and work it until it starts to disappear.....For the EX that has some carnauba so it can add to the shine, just make sure to use a foam applicator and lay that down thin and even as possible....Let setup for about an hour and remove.....I wait 24 hours for a full cure time before adding another coat or topping with paste wax.....The same is true of EX-P...As for Nattys you can layer if you want I find that it really does not make that much difference if at all, at least I can't see any......I know that Steve made the blue for darker colors but you will be just fine with the original Nattys on your car
 
Hi Beemerboy,

Thanks for your reply. I plan on using SSR2, just because it has been awhile. After that I was gonna use EX since I still have some left from last season's detailing. :) So if I put a coat of EX on today, I should wait until tomorrow for the second coat? Not a problem, just want to make sure that I am using it correctly and allow for proper cure time.

Do you think two coats of EX is ok? Or should I do three?

Thanks again,

Jag
 
You'll probably want to follow SSR 2 with a finer polish like SSR 1 to remove any micromarring you might have. Generally I'll wait 12 hours between Poorboy's sealant layers, I've never had a problem with that amount of time. Regular Natty's will look great on your truck, EX will add some depth and Natty's will only add to that. IMO Blue Natty's darkens the finish a bit more than regular Nattys and is a bit harder to use (a very small bit). Good luck with the truck, it'll look great.
 
OK a few more questions.

Is it absolutely necessary to top EX with Natty's? I did so last year and it looked great, but Im curious does it have to be done?

Do I gain any extra protection from topping with Natty's?

Also, if the answer is no, how long does EX protection/shine last for? What do you guys use in between coats of EX to keep up the protection/shine?

Also same question goes for Natty's.

Thanks,

Jag
 
You don't have to top EX or any other sealant for that matter, it's individual taste, some like the look better others don't.

As for it gaining additional protection by topping w/ natty's, I would render a guess that you would because you are putting on another layer in between the elements and your paint.

I don't know how long EX would last on it on it's own I always seem to top it w/ natty's (I like the way it looks).

After washes I go over the car with S&G to bring back the gloss

HTH
"J"
 
Has anyone compared DP Paste Wax With PB? Any recomendations on which one I should order. Many new customers keep asking me if I offer a Paste wax so I figure why not?
 
You don't have to top EX. I got about 2 months out of it (January-March) on one coat. I would do multiple coats and then wait a day or two to decide if you want to top it. It's all a personal preference really, natty's won't add much durability but at the same time it won't take any away. It's purely asthetic at that point.
 
Thanks very much for the replies. I put one coat of EX on yesterday, and plan to do another today. I guess I will wait and see how it looks like you said. I just figured that Natty's would just add to the protection/shine factor. :)

Do you think two coats of EX is enough? Or do you guys feel that three would be better?

What is S&G? Is it similar to S&W (which I currently use) and need to get some more. I will be placing an order with Steve for sure next week. ;)

Thanks to all,

Jag :dcrules
 
Jaguar,

After you top with XP and let it sit for 24 hours to cure I would do a Nattys spit shine meaning apply the Nattys on a small section (2 foot by 2 foot) and after it hazes spray on SG on top of it and take it off with an MF. IMO it gives an unbelievable shine that is well worth the effort (what little there is) of putting on the Nattys.

Click here ( http://www.detailcity.com/showthread.php?t=13822 ) for the proof in pics.
 
Got the second coat of EX done tonight. Looks pretty sweet. The truck has a nice shine to it.. very bright!

I think if I top with Natty's (if I remember right) that the brightness will get toned down some right? Like get deeper so to speak? I think that's what happened last season after using it. So just wondering if that sounded correct.

Speaking of Natty's. I would assume I do not have to wait for 24 hrs to pass (in between coats) like EX correct?

Thanks again to all,

Jag
 
Natty's doesn't need to cure, but if you wait an hour or two between coats it will ensure that the wax sticks. You're right in thinking that adding Natty's will bring the shine down a bit but bring up the depth of color. You'll get more wetness as well. If you spitshine with S&G you may be able to get the best of both methods, Natty's is a more shiney carnauba and it still adds depth.
 
Thanks tubafeak.

For today, I will just use Natty's however. Don't have any S&G. :(

I gotta place an order with Steve next week when he is back. ;)
 
Sorry about the typo in my last post.. I meant EX and not XP.. Have to not work as a computer tech and go on detailcity at the same time. :lmfao

Just to repost with the correction

Jaguar,

After you top with EX and let it sit for 24 hours to cure I would do a Nattys spit shine meaning apply the Nattys on a small section (2 foot by 2 foot) and after it hazes spray on SG on top of it and take it off with an MF. IMO it gives an unbelievable shine that is well worth the effort (what little there is) of putting on the Nattys.

Click here ( http://www.detailcity.com/showthread.php?t=13822 ) for the proof in pics.
 
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