Need Help with Whole Set Up For a Job!!!

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Billy1882

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I'm still pretty new at everything to do with buffing and polishing. I have been reading on this board for about a month now trying to learn how to do everything the right way and also what products are the best (or which everyone prefers) and which ones to use. I have buffed with a rotary a few times and used a 3M rubbing compound and followed up with (I think its called) finesse it finishing material. It worked pretty good. I just want to learn how to do a job that includes everything.

I have a Jeep that I'm going to try to sell in a month or so and I want to detail the paint to make it look the best possible. The paint is defiantly oxidized. The are a few questions I wanted to see if any of you guys could help me with.

First:
I want to get a rotary and a polisher and the two Im looking at are the Dewalt dw849 and for the polishing a porter cable. I have pretty much got my mind set on these two just to let you know with what Im going to be using.

What kind of rubbing compound do you think would be best to use and what kind of swirl or polishing compound should I use to follow up with?

2nd:
Should I wash the car and then use a clay bar? What kind if so?

3rd:
Should I then use a sealant or wax? Not sure if which one goes first or if you only use one? If so what kinds of either?

4th:
I there anything I should follow up with?

I have researched so many different products on here not sure what to use. I like poorboys line. Also I read that the zainos synthetic wax is really good but I heard it is really hard to use because or streaks. Has anyone used this product and if so what do you think of it?

Hope I got everything and what to thank you guys to helping a newbie out.
 
I don't use a rotary, so I can't help you there. I can definitely say to clay the paint though. The minimal time/cost associated with claying are far outweighed by the benefits. Personally I like the ClayMagic and the Mother's clay & lube combo. They are both available locally and are both affordable.

A sealant will go on before a wax usually. The sealant is usually applied after the swirl removing/polishing steps. A wax topper can be applied to the sealant after it has bonded to the paint. There is usually a recommended 24 hour wait time before topping the sealant.

Hopefully someone can give you more detailed answers than I have given you. Best of luck in your endeavor!!
 
Billy1882 said:
I have a Jeep that I'm going to try to sell in a month or so and I want to detail the paint to make it look the best possible. The paint is defiantly oxidized. The are a few questions I wanted to see if any of you guys could help me with.

First:
I want to get a rotary and a polisher and the two Im looking at are the Dewalt dw849 and for the polishing a porter cable. I have pretty much got my mind set on these two just to let you know with what Im going to be using.

What kind of rubbing compound do you think would be best to use and what kind of swirl or polishing compound should I use to follow up with?

2nd:
Should I wash the car and then use a clay bar? What kind if so?

3rd:
Should I then use a sealant or wax? Not sure if which one goes first or if you only use one? If so what kinds of either?

4th:
I there anything I should follow up with?

I have researched so many different products on here not sure what to use. I like poorboys line. Also I read that the zainos synthetic wax is really good but I heard it is really hard to use because or streaks. Has anyone used this product and if so what do you think of it?

Hope I got everything and what to thank you guys to helping a newbie out.
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Admirable that you would like to do "everything", but keep in mind that this is a car that is going to be out of your hands after the sale. Unless you know the person buying it will be dilligent with the upkeep, you should not go too crazy over it.

1st, the 3m stuff you mentioned will work in this situation, however, It is not known how often you have used this stuff on the paint with a rotary. So to be safe, you could just apply the rubbing compound with the PC over the areas that require treatment. It will take more time, but the results will be good, and you wil keep swirls to a minimum. If you feel real comfortable with the rotary, then use that first, then followup with the PC. Just be sure to tape off edges, corners, and decals that could be burned or torn off during the work.

2nd, washing the car always comes first before you do anything else to it. A lot of folks have their opinions on what works best for the wash, however i find that for the inital prep wash, I use either a product like Meguiars Crystal or QEW. For a more aggressive wash, I will use Meguiar's APC+. As for the clay, most of the over the counter stuff will do you fine. Primary focus shouldbe on the horizontal surfaces, and then take care of the vertical surfaces if so inclined. I personally like the Mother's stuff, but mostly any clay system will do in a pinch. Just be sure to check that you get an entire kit before you leave the store (there have been reports of guys stealing clay bars out of the kits).

3rd, the oxidation hasn't been really talked about yet, so I'll touch up on that real quick. If after you have done your claying and compounding you find that there is still oxidation, then you might want to go with a paint cleaner, or cleaner wax. Since you like Poorboys, i would suggest going with PWC since it cleans and leaves behind some protection. This product alone would help save you from taking on additional steps. You can also use the PWC on the wheels if you like since it can help remove some road grime that is not removed during the regular wash. Best of all, it can be used either by hand or by PC with really good results. If you want the paint to sparkle a little more, you could add some EX on top of the PWC, or any good low solvent wax like Natty's, or Mequiar's #16 (no waiting time is required). Primary reason for going the wax route is that it can also help with hinding any marring that you may have not been able to remove during the compound/ polish stages.

So to recap:

wash
clay
compound/ polish
paint cleaner/ wax
low solvent wax (if so inclined)

Be sure to let us know how it all worked out and post some pics.
 
Thanks Usdm and JaredPointer for your advice. Also want to thank you for replying to this long post and for all the time you put into you guys post. Sounds like really good information. Ill let you know how everything goes and post some pics for you. I have not bought anything yet so this weekend IM going to do that.

If anyone has any suggests to my post let me know so I make sure I get all the right stuff.

Thanks again guys
 
I don't know if you have checked it out yet or not, but I may have some answers for you on www.ocdetails.com. Check out the articles if you haven't read through them yet. Like Jared and usdm have shown, the answers to your questions are not short ones. The link in my sig to my advice on detailing would be my answer to your questions. Keep us posted on how it works out for you.
 
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