Need Help FAST with Audi!!!

G

GetAudiHere

New member
Alright so I went to go polish today and I tried the LC orange CCS pad with Menzerna IP. I dont know if I'm doing something wrong (btw im using a PC) but it seems to dry up pretty fast and not break down like i see in some PC videos. So my next question is that the orange pad with IP isn't doing anything. Should i switch to HTEC and if so what pad, I have yellow orange white and black.



And one more question I taped up the whole car but what is the best way to go over non flat surfaces like the curves in the car. Do i just try my best and try to keep it as steady as possible?



O btw in another forum someone said that HTEC wasn't meant for the PC and that i should not use it with the 7424. Any thought on that.



Keep in mind the only products i have are HTEC, IP, FPII and the pads listed above for polishing so please recommend combo's accordingly.
 
Anyone else? I also have a 4" yellow LC yellow pad and a 4" LC green pad anything would be much appreciated. I feel like the next step would be 4" yellow pad with IP or maybe try the HTEC with the white or orange pad......what do you guys think?
 
I have never detailed an audi but from what I understand the clear is rock hard. So you are going to have one heck of a time cutting those swirls out with a PC. You can try the EC with the orange pad as you have IP on hard to take out any micromarring.
 
DieselMDX said:
alot of people mix ip with rmg 80/30 to help with work in time and cut down on dusting
Click to expand...
LOL, 70/30



I used this combo for the first time last weekend and it was a pleasure to work with, although it still dusted a bit.
 
What about mixing IP with Menzerna machine glaze 70/30? Same/similar results? I dont have RMG but I have the menzerna glaze.



Tim
 
GetAudiHere said:
I also have 4" pads in yellow and green i think. Should I try yellow with IP?
Click to expand...

Use the 4" yellow, dont worry about going through your clear with the pc, youd be there for days.
 
tstead said:
What about mixing IP with Menzerna machine glaze 70/30? Same/similar results? I dont have RMG but I have the menzerna glaze.



Tim
Click to expand...
the only Menzerna product i've ever used is IP, so I can't say. I think RMG is added to IP to cut down on the dusting and to extend the work time, but it also adds a bit of depth as well. Does the Menz glaze dust? Does it have long work time? If so, give it a shot and post back with your results.
 
i would step up to a stronger polish with the orange first...then a yellow if needed. others have reported burning paint with 4" pads and the pc...so i wouldn't linger for TOO long in one area. yes, the PC and 4" pads can burn paint.



.02
 
I've done enough Audis that I'll offer my $0.02:



Audis with hard clear (i.e., *not* the weirdly soft A4/S4s that are rare but do exist) are tough enough that you don't need to worry about being too aggressive, especially by PC. But you do have to worry about doing something in the "oops" category ;)



Use the 4" pads for correction but keep the speed down and pay attention to what you're doing. Don't overheat things; I'm one of the people who have damaged paint with the PC and 4" pads (cyclo brand green pad and 3M 05933, a fairly mild combo).



Keep abrasives off the clear anodized aluminum trim.



The H-T EC works fine by PC, especially with the 4" pads. I used it with a 4" orange pad to remove a RIDS from an Audi and it worked fine (if slowly). It'll leave some micromarring. I'd much rather use H-T EC with an orange pad than something else with a yellow, but you might *need* H-T EC/yellow if your marring is really bad.



Clean the pad out frequently so it's not loaded with broken-down product (which will compromise the cut).



Don't switch to IP until the marring has been replaced by micromarring from the H-T EC; don't switch to the FP until the paint is thoroughly corrected. FWIW I didn't get quite the look I wanted with the FP (on Audi clear) but it's not bad.



Any scratches that you can't get to with the machine are gonna take a long, long time to do by hand...I'm thinking about fingernail scratches behind the doorhandles.
 
Looking at the pics in the linked thread, the marring looks severe enough that if doing it by PC I'd go straight to 4" orange light cut pads and H-T EC and see if that goes OK. In the absence of an orange pad I'd use the most aggressive one you have (yellow I'd guess). Remember the goal: replace the current marring with micromarring from your combo.



As for the speed, you'll find that at higher speeds the 4" pads just aren't happy campers ;) Turn the speed up/down and see what happens...you'll find the right speed. It's not like trying a high/low speed is gonna cause some disaster, it'll just be a learning experience. What works perfectly for *me* with my pads might not be the same as for you, so this is one where you'll do best to figure it out for yourself. It'll only take a moment.
 
alright, should i try the 4" green pad which is one step below the orange first or just go straight into the yellow 4". Also what would the next step be? IP with what pad? then could i use FPII with the 6.5 inch pads and which colored pad for that?
 
I'm just not sufficiently familiar with those pads to feel comfortable offering specifics.



If that 4" green is like the Cyclo brand 4" green then it's gonna be pretty mild and will take a long time to do correction. But I suppose I'd try it and see.



Yeah, I'd go to IP after the most aggressive work. I'd use something like the 4" Cyclo green pad for that.



Then the FPII on a larger polishing pad, but not until things are already basically perfect.



Sorry to be so less-than-helpful, but I just don't know from all the different pads on the market these days and on our Audis I don't use the PCs for anything but spot-correction (I use the rotaries and the Cyclos for bigger jobs).
 
No you have been MORE than helpful I really appreciate it! I will try some different combinations and see what I have to do from there. The only thing im worried about is damaging the paint with aggresive pads and polishes or levelers.
 
GetAudiHere said:
..I will try some different combinations and see what I have to do from there. The only thing im worried about is damaging the paint with aggresive pads and polishes or levelers.
Click to expand...



Unless you have one *VERY* unusual Audi, or maybe if it's been repainted or aggressively polished and you don't know about it....well, damaging it shouldn't be an issue unless you do something that I can't imagine. You sound like somebody who's prone to paying attention to what's going on and erring on the side of caution, so I'm not worried.



Considering how many passes I did with the rotary on my wife's roof (and with some very aggressive combos and high speeds) before I decided to just live with her etched paint, I simply don't foresee any problems. Working by PC, you'll probably give up before the last of the marring does ;)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top