Natty's Blue over Zaino?

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i've zaino'ed my 03 red honda accord. it looks good and is well protected, but i'd like a little more 'wet' look. Would applying natty's blue help? and probably, more importanly, would it negatively effect the zaino treatment? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
I don't know what you'r done so far, so maybe try another layer of Z2 or try some Z8 first and see how that goes. Natty's Blue does have some insane wetness, though, so I can't see that being a bad idea.
 
Intercooled said:
It will degrade the effectiveness of Zaino. And dont forget, you wont be able to layer any more Z after the Nattys.
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I agree with Intercooled. i would not do that to my Zaino'd vehicle.



Would offer this suggestion. If you are in doubt of our opinion one mite try to apply carnuaba to a small section of the hood or a section of the roof to get a side by side comparison.



Have been told that a good car wash like Z7 can take off well worn carnuaba off the paint making it ready for bonding. Have never done it. Have only read about this though. I personally have used ZPC or AIO to get ready for the Z treatment.



Have been using carnuabas this winter. They did look great. They were easy to apply. Buffed off easily. Am just disappointed in longevity and and durability. Even knowing that it would be less. Did not realize that it would be so much less
 
about 3 months ago, i clayed, ssr 2.5, aio, Z5 and Z2. Been washing with Z7 and applying Z6. Just the other day, i did another Z5/Z6/Z2. It looks good, but i'm itching to try something different. Guess i'm just obsessed! Been thinking about trying OCP, EX-P followed by NB.
 
I've been wanting to try out some natty's blue over the zaino I have on the wifes dk red BMW. I just have not had the time. I was thinking of doing a section like a rear quarter panel and trunk. Then if I did not like it, I would just dawn it off.
 
hey gmblack3a, i'll let you know how it turns out. i'm about to order some stuff tonite, including ex-p and nb. i'm going to do a friends red '66 chevelle in the next couple of weeks and i'm planning on using ocp/ex-p/nb. I'll probably do a test section of the nb on my accord.
 
People top Zaino with S100, so I wouldn't imagine that Nattys would be any different. I have some and will probably hit the hood of one of my cars this weekend just for kicks. Once the Zaino has cured I can't see how adding Nattys would degrade the finish.

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I do see on the Nattys label where it says that it has petroleum distilates, where the S100 only calls out #1 Carnuba and beeswax.

Also on the Nattys label it says to use over a sealant. I think the Zaino will be fine. It's not like it will strip it off or turn your car purple.

Give it a shot!
 
chpsk8 said:
People top Zaino with S100, so I wouldn't imagine that Nattys would be any different. I have some and will probably hit the hood of one of my cars this weekend just for kicks. Once the Zaino has cured I can't see how adding Nattys would degrade the finish.

...goes out to the garage to read some labels...

...returns...

I do see on the Nattys label where it says that it has petroleum distilates, where the S100 only calls out #1 Carnuba and beeswax.

Also on the Nattys label it says to use over a sealant. I think the Zaino will be fine. It's not like it will strip it off or turn your car purple.

Give it a shot!
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Yeah, give it a try. IN technical terms youll lose the durability effectiveness of Zaino. But hey, experimentation is fun!
 
i tried that exact combo and found Natty's Blue to "mute" my z2 pro's finish. It did not give added "wetness"



I find Natty's Blue works best on Clearkote, Meguiar's #21, Klasse, and Werkstatt



Just my $.02
 
thanks for the replies...i may try it on the trunk and see what it does.....depending on the result, i may just clay the trunk and do a ocp/ex-p/nb combo and then i'll have a better idea of how it stacks up to the zaino...half the fun is just experimenting....
 
b10751 said:
thanks for the replies...i may try it on the trunk and see what it does.....depending on the result, i may just clay the trunk and do a ocp/ex-p/nb combo and then i'll have a better idea of how it stacks up to the zaino...half the fun is just experimenting....
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Did you every give the NB a try over the zaino?
 
I did try the NB over Zaino. I applied NB to my trunk and i could see a noticeable difference in wetness. In fact, I liked the look so much, i put one coat over the entire car. It seemed to take away some of the slickness of the Z, but was still very smooth. Then, last saturday, i was bored and decided to tear down everything on the car and start over. So, I polished with SSR2.5/SSR1, followed by EX-P and then topped with NB. Very nice look. I like the look better than the Z. The Z was very shiny and reflective, but the new combo seems to darken the paint with more gloss and more metalflake pop. I have since added 2 more coats of NB and am very pleased. I'm sure the durability is not where it was with the Z, but I don't mind topping every month or so. Good luck with yours!
 
I'd try Z8 first and see if that gives you the extra wetness you want.



Personally, on red and black (non metallic) I prefer the glaze/carnauba route even though the durability isn't as good because of the depth and wetness advantage over sealants. If you can't rewax every 6 weeks or so to keep the optimal look up, you are better off using sealants. Werkstatt, UPP, Zaino, etc all do look really good.
 
Regarding NB over Zaino, or any other sealant for that matter, may or may not add the desired look. And it may create a less desirable bonding surface on which to add additional layers of that sealant. But to think that adding a layer of NB (or any other carnuba free of paint "cleaners") will hurt the durability of a sealant is ludicrous - it is not removiing any of the sealant, rather just laying down a bit of carnuba on top of it, actually increasing durability a tad.
 
I'd take the Z off. Menerza sp polish, RMG, then Natty's Blue. Wait 24 add another coat of NB.... Then you will see some "wetness"....
 
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