My first run with M105

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Harbison215

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This stuff was really strange for me. I used an edge yellow wool pad and it kept drinking up all of the megs 105. I assumed this was because of 105's small window of work time but still, the stuff disappeared nearly instantly, which originally lead to hologramming and some marring/swirls.



I tried it on a black Nissan 350Z. I starting using a little more more product and it finished up nicely for a compound. However, the yellow pad left a pretty hazy finish (maybe so noticeable because the car was black or maybe my technique? please let me know). I finished some ultrafina and a blue 3m pad and it came up like glass, even under the scrutiny of my drop lights.



All in all, I'd say m105 is a great compound, very easy to use and achieves great results in nearly 0 time. I would like to try it with some different pads before giving my official opinion on it.



I have a black 2004 Acura TL that I'm going to sell (because I am also a car dealer). It's at the body shop having the back bumper resprayed and when its done, I'm going to give it a full detail, inside and out with all my new products and fairly new carpet extractor (I just bought it but it was used). I'll have some nice before and after pics for you guys early next week.
 
Do you have any purple foamed wool pads? I really love the m105 with them, the finish left behind is great and the defect removal is still impressive.
 
Harbison215 said:
This stuff was really strange for me. I used an edge yellow wool pad and it kept drinking up all of the megs 105. I assumed this was because of 105's small window of work time but still, the stuff disappeared nearly instantly, which originally lead to hologramming and some marring/swirls.



I tried it on a black Nissan 350Z. I starting using a little more more product and it finished up nicely for a compound. However, the yellow pad left a pretty hazy finish (maybe so noticeable because the car was black or maybe my technique? please let me know). I finished some ultrafina and a blue 3m pad and it came up like glass, even under the scrutiny of my drop lights.



All in all, I'd say m105 is a great compound, very easy to use and achieves great results in nearly 0 time. I would like to try it with some different pads before giving my official opinion on it.



I have a black 2004 Acura TL that I'm going to sell (because I am also a car dealer). It's at the body shop having the back bumper resprayed and when its done, I'm going to give it a full detail, inside and out with all my new products and fairly new carpet extractor (I just bought it but it was used). I'll have some nice before and after pics for you guys early next week.
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I had this happen also. Do you guys moisten the pad with qd or water periodically when using M105?
 
I still haven't tried my sample of M105 yet, but there's been a few people suggest picking up the product off of the panel instead of applying it to the pad. Apparently it works better this way and doesn't immediately soak into your pad.
 
SuperBee364 said:
I still haven't tried my sample of M105 yet, but there's been a few people suggest picking up the product off of the panel instead of applying it to the pad. Apparently it works better this way and doesn't immediately soak into your pad.
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That's definitely what I plan on doing when I get my gallon of M105. :woot2:
 
I picked it up off the panel and still had the problem. The only solution was to add more 105 but this still only allowed for a few quick passes. Regardless, it did do a great job at finishing the surface down nicely. Just have to be careful not to over work it because you only have about 3 passes before you are pretty much buffing with seemingly dry wool on the panel.
 
Harbison215 said:
I picked it up off the panel and still had the problem. The only solution was to add more 105 but this still only allowed for a few quick passes. Regardless, it did do a great job at finishing the surface down nicely. Just have to be careful not to over work it because you only have about 3 passes before you are pretty much buffing with seemingly dry wool on the panel.
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In the youtube Meguiars video (I'll see if i can find a link to it), the Meguiars guy worked the M105 for *nine seconds*, and removed 1200 grit wetsanding marks in the process. Nine seconds... wow.



Edit: found it YouTube - Ultra-Cut Compound 105 in Action



He works the M105 from time stamp 2:04 to 2:13. Also check out how long the strip of M105 is. Looks like it's about an 8 inch strip for a 1 square foot area.
 
SuperBee364 said:
He works the M105 from time stamp 2:04 to 2:13. Also check out how long the strip of M105 is. Looks like it's about an 8 inch strip for a 1 square foot area.
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Looks like I wasn't using near enough. I was using about a 6 inch strip for 2x2. That would explain why it fealt like my pad was drying up, I just wasn't using enough. Didn't leave holograms though.
 
6 inch strip is plenty (dependingonthe thickness). I use two dime sized drops on the paint's worth.



I tell everybody, 10 seconds is all you need (it will dry up fast!). Zip it and stop.
 
I got a nearly flawless finish using #105 with a white foamed wool pad on a Saturn Sky Redline. Used a 5-6" line around the middle of the pad, worked it for 30 seconds or so.



I have found on softer paints that #105 is somewhat grabby, but it is smooth on harder paints.
 
Hey guys, i know i still need to refine my technique and amount of product used with m105. When the m105 dries up and 'flashes' on your paint it is PITA to remove with just a MF.



My question is, what do you guys use to easily remove the 'flashed' m105? I've tried using a QD with some limited success but i'm hoping there's a faster way to remove it. Thanks!
 
TH0001 said:
6 inch strip is plenty (dependingonthe thickness). I use two dime sized drops on the paint's worth.
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On how large of a section, 1x1? 2x2?



TH0001 said:
I tell everybody, 10 seconds is all you need (it will dry up fast!). Zip it and stop.
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Just goes against everything I have learned on here about breaking down polishes. Just isn't natural.:lol
 
Scottwax said:
I got a nearly flawless finish using #105 with a white foamed wool pad on a Saturn Sky Redline. Used a 5-6" line around the middle of the pad, worked it for 30 seconds or so.
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So you apply the polish to the pad rather than pick it up off the paint?



How large are you sections?
 
bert31 said:
So you apply the polish to the pad rather than pick it up off the paint?



How large are you sections?
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Correct. I draw a circle around the middle of the pad with 105, spread it lightly, then work a 1' x 2' area.



You are also correct I used an LC white foamed wool.
 
Scottwax said:
Correct. I draw a circle around the middle of the pad with 105, spread it lightly, then work a 1' x 2' area.



You are also correct I used an LC white foamed wool.
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If the white foamed wool works as well as the purple foamed wool, I'm sensing more money leaving my bank account. I haven't even seen the white foamed wool yet. Time to do some searching.



Edit: Not seeing the white foamed wool on LC's web site...
 
I got the pad from my Optimum/LC distibutor. I just assumed it was an LC pad because those are what he sells. I'll try to get hold of him tomorrow and see who makes the pad. I'll also try to get the pics up tonight.
 
kkjv1 said:
My question is, what do you guys use to easily remove the 'flashed' m105? I've tried using a QD with some limited success but i'm hoping there's a faster way to remove it. Thanks!
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i had a hell of a time with some of this gummed up 105. it really is a PITA and probably the worst aspect of using 105. it takes some time to figure out how to work the product so that it doesn't do this. on the rear quarters of a lexus rx330, i had this problem all over. i just couldn't get it to finish without it happening at least somewhere. i used scratchx with a clean MF to hand remove any excess gunk.



why does it seem like every car i did this week was black?!! :think:
 
Harbison215 said:
i had a hell of a time with some of this gummed up 105. it really is a PITA and probably the worst aspect of using 105. it takes some time to figure out how to work the product so that it doesn't do this. on the rear quarters of a lexus rx330, i had this problem all over. i just couldn't get it to finish without it happening at least somewhere. i used scratchx with a clean MF to hand remove any excess gunk.



why does it seem like every car i did this week was black?!! :think:
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If you have Optimum Polish or Compound, mixed it 50/50 on the pad. You still get a lot of cut but with significantly longer working time. Used 105/OC this afternoon on a Mustang and it got all the spider swirling out in one polishing session-and I was able to work the 105/OC blend for a full two minutes-even better, I notice no hologramming and kept the rotary at 1000 rpm.
 
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