More aggressive pad, less aggressive polish or...

BudgetPlan1

BudgetPlan1

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...less aggressive pad, more aggressive polish.

Using somewhat standard items for hypothetical situation (Menzerna & LC pads), if you`re about to begin some test sections and are hoping to hit the winning combo the first time, whatcha start with:

- Menz 2400 on white polishing pad

or

- Menz 3500 on orange light cutting pad

????

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For me this would depend on the condition of the clear coat. How much correction I am wanting to achieve. Will an AIO do the job with a cutting pad? Is the clear coat hard or soft. Am I dealing with single stage or a clear coat. I find hypothetical questions or situations difficult to answer

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Buster906 said:
For me this would depend on the condition of the clear coat. How much correction I am wanting to achieve. Will an AIO do the job with a cutting pad? Is the clear coat hard or soft. Am I dealing with single stage or a clear coat. I find hypothetical questions or situations difficult to answer

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Just trying to gauge what `first instinct` would be. Say a 1 year old GM sedan, dark blue metallic paint, in generally good condition, typical dealer/tunnel wash swirls, nothing really deep, 1 polishing step should do the job.

Gonna end up doing a few test sections to compare and someone offers $100 if it turns out your first section proves to be most effective.

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Buster906 said:
Are you going to try an AIO like HD SPEED or KLASSE


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Nah, lets suppose this car is gonna get a dedicated LSP, coating or sealant or we just wanna get it looking nice. Doesn`t need compounding, not that many defects.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Just trying to gauge what `first instinct` would be. Say a 1 year old GM sedan, dark blue metallic paint, in generally good condition, typical dealer/tunnel wash swirls, nothing really deep, 1 polishing step should do the job.

Gonna end up doing a few test sections to compare and someone offers $100 if it turns out your first section proves to be most effective.

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I would try an AIO first. If the AIO did not have the cut with a heavy cutting pad, I would move to a cutting compound.

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Are they offering $100 just for the test spot? Hehe

If I had only one choice then probably scholl s20+ on scholl blue spider pad.

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Lake Country HydroTech Orange pad with Menzerna 3800, did a 2004 Taurus that was very well cared for

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I have no actual vehicle in mind nor products; just kinda wondering to achieve a certain level of finish does one have a preference for trying a more aggressive pad OR a more aggressive product; i.e. would your first inclination be to have the pad do the work or the liquid?
 
I start light and work the direction of the results achieved with product and pad used

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BudgetPlan1 said:
I have no actual vehicle in mind nor products; just kinda wondering to achieve a certain level of finish does one have a preference for trying a more aggressive pad OR a more aggressive product; i.e. would your first inclination be to have the pad do the work or the liquid?
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I would *ALWAYS* expect to be happier with a harsh product on a mild pad.

I`ve *NEVER* been satisfied with a mild product on a harsh pad. NEVER. Don`t even try it any more.

My view is that the pad should merely facilitate the optimal performance of the product.
 
Accumulator said:
I would *ALWAYS* expect to be happier with a harsh product on a mild pad.

I`ve *NEVER* been satisfied with a mild product on a harsh pad. NEVER. Don`t even try it any more.

My view is that the pad should merely facilitate the optimal performance of the product.
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Makes sense...thanks. For this novice, when I look at something for the first time and think "I`m gonna give Product X a try first..." and then think about/start with mild pad and work from there.

Possibly excepting microfiber, was just kinda wondering if anyone comes at it from a different direction. I guess it may come from not knowing (although I got it now) what plays the primary role in correction...the pad or the product.

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I`ve been amazed with what hc400 or bf src compound will finish to with b&s uerofiber pads. But with that said po91e will work well too with the same pads, but it all depends on condition and hardness of the paint. I`ve done 2 chevy cruzes back to back and one had harder clear than the other and only one year apart


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Accumulator said:
I would *ALWAYS* expect to be happier with a harsh product on a mild pad.

I`ve *NEVER* been satisfied with a mild product on a harsh pad. NEVER. Don`t even try it any more.

My view is that the pad should merely facilitate the optimal performance of the product.
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There are many roads that lead to Rome. I do the opposite of Accumulator, with fantastic success. I typically use M205 with a yellow Buff and Shine pad to one step. It gives great results. (I often throw in some Duragloss Squeaky Clean too). One caveat: I soak the pad under hot water first and then squeeze and then spin it damp dry on my rotary at 3000 rpm. That softens it up and helps it finish down beautifully. There are some new compounds like TLC (The Last Compound) that finish down extremely well. If you were going to try it on a softer pad, I think you`d do great using that one.
 
Richy- See how experiences/preferences differ?!? Never a definitive right/wrong to this stuff.

Heh heh, you mentioned one of my least favorite products ever there...M205 :D Yeah, I know I`m in the minority on that score! Another thing were there`s no real right/wrong!
 
BudgetPlan1- You mentioned MF pads; IMO those are kinda a wildcard. IIRC, some "cutting" and "polishing" MF pads are basically the same MF. Not that I`ve ever finished out with MF...
 
Acumulator

I have used Lake Country`s MF finishing pads, they are awesome, while doing a customer`s car, I actually stop my work and sent Dave at Lake Country an email telling him how excellent they are.
 
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