Menzerna SIP or IP for Honda paint?

I just did my wifes Odyssey with IP and followed by UF. Worked out great. Ceramic clear rated polishes don't usually work well with soft paints.
 
DSVWGLI said:
Depends on condition of paint and what you are trying to achieve.
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The condition is great, minor swirls that can't be seen unless you hit it with a spotlight or direct sunlight. Silver hides it well.



I've polished my car this year with SFX-2 and a UDM with an orange pad but I really should've gone for a more aggressive polish as it didn't seem to get any of the deeper swirls out, etc.



I'm thinking the Menzerna IP with a LC yellow or orange pad in the spring.
 
ZoomBoy said:
The condition is great, minor swirls that can't be seen unless you hit it with a spotlight or direct sunlight. Silver hides it well.



I've polished my car this year with SFX-2 and a UDM with an orange pad but I really should've gone for a more aggressive polish as it didn't seem to get any of the deeper swirls out, etc.



I'm thinking the Menzerna IP with a LC yellow or orange pad in the spring.
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If swirls are minor then maybe 106FA and a polishing pad will do the trick. I've had very good results with that combo. 106FA has a good amount of cut and finishes very bright. If that doesn't do it then go SIP and finish with 106FA, 85RD or FPII. I have FPII and find 106FA to finish as good or even better with a finishing pad. 106FA is very versatile, a great polish to have.
 
IMHO, I would stay away from the yellow pad with the IP, especially if the paint looks as good as you're telling us.



With my experience with Honda paint, I would start out with IP and a WHITE pad. If that isn't doing the trick, then I'd try 106 with the white pad, then maybe step up to IP/106 w/orange, but I would stay away from the yellow all together. You could induce some pretty nasty marring in there, therefore adding an extra step that you might not necessarily want/need.





ZoomBoy said:
The condition is great, minor swirls that can't be seen unless you hit it with a spotlight or direct sunlight. Silver hides it well.



I've polished my car this year with SFX-2 and a UDM with an orange pad but I really should've gone for a more aggressive polish as it didn't seem to get any of the deeper swirls out, etc.



I'm thinking the Menzerna IP with a LC yellow or orange pad in the spring.
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I agreen with EisenHulk, you probably won't need to go anymore aggressive than a white pad since Honda paint is so soft... I just polished mine out about a month ago with the Wolfgang TSR and a white pad, and then finished with black pad and 85RD, and it looks spectacular. Didn't get all the RIDS out, but I'm not too concerned with those as I am with swirls since it's a daily driver and will see some scratches...
 
Thanks guys, I've deleted the yellow LC pads from my cart and went white. Hopefully a white pad + IP will fix the swirling! I couldn't get what I wanted with an orange pad and SFX-2, so I'm thinking it was more of a polishing issue than a pad issue.



Quick question about applying the second step with a black pad, should I be applying at a lower RPM on my UDM? I usually use 5-6 for fixing scratches, etc.
 
EisenHulk said:
IMHO, I would stay away from the yellow pad with the IP, especially if the paint looks as good as you're telling us.



With my experience with Honda paint, I would start out with IP and a WHITE pad. If that isn't doing the trick, then I'd try 106 with the white pad, then maybe step up to IP/106 w/orange, but I would stay away from the yellow all together. You could induce some pretty nasty marring in there, therefore adding an extra step that you might not necessarily want/need.
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What 'hulk said.



The only change I'd make is that I'd say, "I would stay away from the yellow foam pad. period. always. they suck. don't use em." But 'hulk is nicer than me, too.



If you need a cutting pad, you need a cutting pad. As such, stay away from foam. Foam is a cutting poseur. Go to wool. PFW will cut much better than yellow foam will, it's safer, and it'll finish down nicer. Use your yellow foam pads to even up the legs on your card playing tables. It's much safer when used for that than it is for car polishing.
 
SuperBee364 said:
What 'hulk said.



The only change I'd make is that I'd say, "I would stay away from the yellow foam pad. period. always. they suck. don't use em." But 'hulk is nicer than me, too.



If you need a cutting pad, you need a cutting pad. As such, stay away from foam. Foam is a cutting poseur. Go to wool. PFW will cut much better than yellow foam will, it's safer, and it'll finish down nicer. Use your yellow foam pads to even up the legs on your card playing tables. It's much safer when used for that than it is for car polishing.
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If you are using a UDM, the Lake Country Purple Foamed Wool is fine so long as you use the smaller 3.5 pads. A UDM will have trouble with larger PFW's. Do a search under thread started by Accumulator. He did a very thorough review on using the 3.5 inch pads on a DA and go pretty good results.
 
SuperBee364 said:
If you need a cutting pad, you need a cutting pad. As such, stay away from foam. Foam is a cutting poseur. Go to wool. PFW will cut much better than yellow foam will, it's safer, and it'll finish down nicer. Use your yellow foam pads to even up the legs on your card playing tables. It's much safer when used for that than it is for car polishing.
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There are time on some paint that I find the LC yellow cutting pad works far better than PFW via rotary :nixweiss. I think it's always good to have an assortment of different pads.
 
DSVWGLI said:
There are time on some paint that I find the LC yellow cutting pad works far better than PFW via rotary :nixweiss. I think it's always good to have an assortment of different pads.
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Bleh, not me. I've never seen a car yet where some flavor of wool wasn't *always* better than yellow LC foam. Honestly, the yellow foam LC pad is about the only detailing product I've ever used that I truly, truly dislike. It gets waaaaaay too hot, way too easy, leaves nasty, nasty compounding marks (regardless of what polish is used, or how hard the clear is), and doesn't cut nearly as well as wool.



But if you like it, and are able to get good results from it, that's very cool.



It's definitely good to have an assortment of pads. At least we agree there. I use that line on my wife everytime I place a pad order...



Some people would say that using foam instead of wool to cut is as silly as using wool instead of foam to finish. But who'd be crazy enough to do that?? ;)
 
SuperBee364 said:
Bleh, not me. I've never seen a car yet where some flavor of wool wasn't *always* better than yellow LC foam. Honestly, the yellow foam LC pad is about the only detailing product I've ever used that I truly, truly dislike. It gets waaaaaay too hot, way too easy, leaves nasty, nasty compounding marks (regardless of what polish is used, or how hard the clear is), and doesn't cut nearly as well as wool.



But if you like it, and are able to get good results from it, that's very cool.



It's definitely good to have an assortment of pads. At least we agree there. I use that line on my wife everytime I place a pad order...
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I agree I would rather use wool as it is much safer and easier to use and doesn't heat up hardly at all. The pad I dislike the most with the rotary is the orange CCS pad. This thing is a bear to control. The results are good but what a PIA. The CCS pads I have tried are the white polishing, orange and blue. The white and orange I hate but the blue I like.
 
Would a flex work a lot better than a pc or udm since Honda paint is so soft? I have an 06 rallye red si and looking into buying some type of polisher.
 
I just polished the hood & trunk on my Accord last night. IP and white pads (Cyclo) were all that was required to remove light and not so light marks/marring.
 
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