Menzerna Power Gloss any good?

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Shiroelex

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Alright, I almost have enough stuff gathered together for my new 7424 to start in on my Mustang. I have a quick question about one of my last purchases I need to make. I've got a fair ammount of swirls, and was wondering if Menzerna Power Gloss is a good idea to use with an orange pad right off the bat. I'm going to wash her, then a clay, followed with the power gloss, then Natty's Paste Blue for a finisher.



My question is, is the Menzerna Power Gloss a good idea for starter swirl removal, and am I doing everything in the right order? I've been doing a ton of reading, and think that this combo should look pretty good on my True Blue Metallic. I was just real torn on whether or not to get the Natty's blue paste, or the liquid carnuba wax. Thanks!





EDIT* I now see that Autogeek.net doesn't carry the power gloss, so if anyone could point me to a good swirl remover that they carry over there, it would be greatly appreciated. I was thining Klasse all-in-one.
 
I use Power Gloss all the time with a rotory. It is very very good at removing swirls, however, going from power gloss to wax you will NOT be happy. Power gloss leaves marring that needs to be taken out by something such as Menzerna's Intensive Polish. Although I haven't used power gloss with a PC, maybe someone else can comment.
 
David703 said:
I haven't used power gloss with a PC, maybe someone else can comment.
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I use it with a PC and an Orange or Green pad, it tends to cake a bit, but cuts well.

I finish with FPII.

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You definitely don't want to go straight to waxing after the Power Gloss. The Power Gloss will induce many microscratches that will need to be followed up with a finishing polish. In addition to those mentioned, I would also suggest Blackfire SRC finishing polish applied with a white polishing pad. This is my favorite polish prior to applying wax or sealant. It really brings out the gloss.



Don't expect to get much, if any swirl removal with AIO. This product is more of a cleaner and prep for sealant and wax.
 
With a PC and lake country pads -

PG and yellow pad takes out scratches

PG and orange pad takes out severe swirls

PG cannot be LSP

PG dusts, so mix in some polish or a glaze
 
Give the Menzerna P106FF a shot. If you don't want so much (32 oz), get the Blackfire stuff that is basically repackaged P106FF with more lube. It comes in a smaller 16 oz bottle. It is pricey, but was very effective for me in getting rid of swirls when used in combination with a PC and light-moderate cut pad (I used one of the green pads from CMA). After a pass or two of this, you'll be ready for an LSP.



It will dust as it breaks down, but it is a small price to pay for the performance and ease of use.
 
OC is more on par with IP then it is with PG. But back on topic PG is very good stuff, though it will need to be followed up with a swirl remover as well.
 
The best results, defect removal wise, that I achieved from Power Gloss was using the Menzerna white compounding pad, however this is a very coarse pad and left micromarring disucced above... The PG is an aggressive compound, and one I would only ever bring out as a last resort - it does very well at what it does, though and thats removing severe marring and swirls. Care should be exercised when using it however.



I also find that S34A (Power Gloss) responds better to a slow-cutting technique in its application - the abrasives in this product are very fragile and will shatter under heavy inital pressure and will not give as good a cut as they would if you make yur inital passes with light to no pressure, allowing the abbrassives to break down under the action of the pad rather than under pressure. Regular spritzes of the pad with QD will help keep the dust down and increase the working time which in the first case may seem very short - the residue can go clear very quick, but spritz the pad and go back over the area and the residue will come back up white. Then you can continue polishing.



By PC - I woud personally use PG on the 5" Menz compounding pad or a 4" cutting pad. It will induce its own marring, but this is easily enough removed by following with a lighter polish. By rotary, I would apply using a cutting pad and with the greatest of care you can get a hologram free finish from it, that could pass as LSP ready - but would I ever go straight from Power Gloss to a wax? Certainly not - yuo can get a much better clarity in the finish by following with a milder abrasive such as Final Finish.
 
From what I understand, PG is IP with twice as much abrasives. Over the next couple weeks I plan to do some testing with IP and PG and some new pads I have on the way to see just what can be accomplished in one step with both of these products and various machines.
 
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