Menzerna is awesome, but....

A

Anosmiac

New member
I recently purchased some Menzerna 106ff and used it today on my cousin's 2006 VW Passat 3.6L...mocha metallic in color. I didn't take any pics, as he keeps the car clean, but needed some clear correction in the way of swirl removal. The 106ff was incredible, removing almost 100% of any micro-marring, but it is also VERY expensive. I got spoiled by its performance on the rotary....



Does anyone have any recommendations on a more cost-effective, "daily use" product that comes close to the performance of the Menz 106ff product? I have been using some Chemical Guys and Detail King products, but nothing in the line of a "nano polish".



Please, any and all recommendations are appreciated.
 
I dunno, man, I'm of the personal opinion that PO106FF is in a class by itself; there's just nothing that compares to it, especially if you're working on a car with a really hard clear coat.



For softer clears, there are some very good (but still not in the same class as 106ff, IMO) less expensive finishing polishes, but you won't see nearly as good of results on hard clears with them.



Personally, if I'm not using FPII or 106FF, I'm using Optimum Polish. I really love this stuff. *Very* easy to use, with a long working time. Finishes off very nicely, but it just doesn't have alot of spunk on hard clear coats.
 
SuperBee364 said:
I dunno, man, I'm of the personal opinion that PO106FF is in a class by itself; there's just nothing that compares to it, especially if you're working on a car with a really hard clear coat.



For softer clears, there are some very good (but still not in the same class as 106ff, IMO) less expensive finishing polishes, but you won't see nearly as good of results on hard clears with them.



Personally, if I'm not using FPII or 106FF, I'm using Optimum Polish. I really love this stuff. *Very* easy to use, with a long working time. Finishes off very nicely, but it just doesn't have alot of spunk on hard clear coats.
Click to expand...



I really appreciate the honest opinion. As I am just starting out in the world of full-time detailing, I want to find a product that works as a cost-effecitive, every day finishing polish that won't bankrupt me. I used the Menz 106ff, and to me...it was beyond impressive!!! But I can't imagine using this on a "grandma's car that she wants polished up". I am very attentive to detail, and even the "minor" detail jobs...I want them to be impressive. After all, this is how we maintain our clients!!!!



I've used the Detail King Foam Pad Glaze...not bad. Same with their "minor paint correction" product (Vibra Cut Lite)...for something more than just swirls. Nothing beats Menzerna, but I just can't afford to use this stuff on every car. I'm looking for that product that gives me a close result to the Menz, but still is in the $30 per gallon range. I know...nothing out there, but come on...give me your best shot!
 
It will take you a looooong time to use 32 ounces of polish. If you're using something less expensive for the "cut" work and 106ff as your finishing polish then you'll still be using that same 32 ounce bottle this time next YEAR.
 
SpoiledMan said:
It will take you a looooong time to use 32 ounces of polish. If you're using something less expensive for the "cut" work and 106ff as your finishing polish then you'll still be using that same 32 ounce bottle this time next YEAR.
Click to expand...



SpoiledMan-

Your recommendation is really why I bought the Menz 106ff in the first place, so thank you!!!! However, I have received some very intensive (but very appreciated) polishing detail requests within the past week. I have a '75 Lincoln (white), '75 Cadillac Eldorado (black, lots of swirls), '52 Merc (custom, minimum swirls, but wait till you see the pics of this car!!!), and the ultimate....a 40' Limo Bus...full detail!!!!!!! Even though Menz lasts, I have to find a product as an "everyday" use. The specialty vehicle will see the utmost attention, including product choice. But I can't justify using Menz on a custom '52 slammed Merc vs a 1987 Buick Century that a grandma wants "clean up nice".



The lines I am a thinking of are Adams, Chemical Guys, and Detail King.



On that note, I ripped up my knee pretty good in an indoor soccer game tonight. I'm going to bed and trying to sleep it off, before my detail tomorrow.
 
Remember that Adams is nothing but repackaged Chemical Guys with a steeper price tag. I've only used a few of CG's products, but have been very pleased with them.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Remember that Adams is nothing but repackaged Chemical Guys with a steeper price tag. I've only used a few of CG's products, but have been very pleased with them.
Click to expand...



I've had that same thought on other distributor's products...no names mentioned. I'm going to try a few products, and see what yields the best results...mainly from CG!!!
 
Anosmiac said:
I've had that same thought on other distributor's products...no names mentioned. I'm going to try a few products, and see what yields the best results...mainly from CG!!!
Click to expand...



Poorboys SSR series is chemical guys polishes (the consumer ones, not the body shop ones), however after talking to paul at CG he says their body shop polishes are better, so I would say to give those a try.



Also he says that almost every detail he does he finishes with pro polish, however I have not used it so I have no idea how god or bad it is.
 
Anosmiac said:
I have a '75 Lincoln (white), '75 Cadillac Eldorado (black, lots of swirls), '52 Merc (custom, minimum swirls, but wait till you see the pics of this car!!!), and the ultimate....a 40' Limo Bus...full detail!!!!!!!
Click to expand...





Can I heist this thread to ask for pictures of those cars?! Very impressive lineup! :drool:
 
I broke out SSR2.5 last week and forgot how much I liked it as a medium to heavy swirl remover (other than the dusting).



BUT to the origional Poster, one thing many of us don't examine when we're looking at the price of detailing products is also considering the time value that's associated with the product. What I mean is if you can get awesome results with 106FF in a single stage polish with a rotary and the finish is acceptable to go straight to an LSP...is it really worth the trade-off of using a "cheaper" polish that won't finish LSP ready and might require another finishing step with yet another cheap finishing polish.



In the end you've got more polishes in your inventory that need to be purchased, carried or take up shelf space, and you've spent more time just becuase you wanted a cheaper polish.



Just something to think about...I've been down that route with not wanting to use my expensive polishes for every job...but now I only carry PG, SIP and 106FF with me and in the end it saves me time and simplifies matters for me.



Andy
 
qballjr13 said:
Can I heist this thread to ask for pictures of those cars?! Very impressive lineup! :drool:
Click to expand...



As luck would have it, my favorite client called me today and asked me to do a detail on his Mercury, which is actually a 1949. I will have pics posted shortly in the "Click and Brag" forum.
 
My money's on the new Einszett - when I run out, their new black bottle finishing polish will be replacing P0106ff and I'm probably going to pick up some of their black bottle IP in lieu of SIP (1Z stuff is 25 bucks a liter).
 
Timmah, from what I've been reading it takes a bit more product to get the same results so the net savings is closer to $0.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top