Megs NXT 2.0 Smearing

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KatyM45S

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[/B][/B]I have used the Megs NXT sealant since it came out a few years ago and never seemed to have a problem on my silver cars. However, I now have two black cars and have been disappointed by streaking. Is this a common problem with NXT or is it possibly a reaction with Menzerna Final Polish? I'm using a red CCS foam pad on a lower setting on a PC.

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I have had some streaking issues with different sealants on dark colors. Usually a detail spray (I try to use the same brand) will remove the streaks.

Avoid direct sunlight and high humidity, which, in some cases will have an impact on the final appearance of the sealant.
 
Given how long you have been using the product, it probably is silly to ask this question, but how long did you allow it to set up before wiping it off? NXT users often find they have to allow the wax to set up anywhere from 10 to 45 minutes, depending on the humidity and ambient conditions. Also, did you apply a thin coat? Of course you did, but I had to ask. :)

In the judgment of the Meguiar's experts, NXT streaking is usually due to too much wax being applied or not allowing it sufficient time to dry before wiping off. But this is not to say that there may not be other reasons, too. In a recent MOL thread, Michael Stoops offered this advice:

The polishing oils in NXT 2.0 need to fully set up before removal or you can in some cases see some streaking. Make sure you're applying a very thin coat to all the painted surfaces of the vehicle and then let it dry for another 30 minutes or so. In fact, if you apply the wax and then start cleaning the interior of the vehicle - vacuuming, cleaning windows, dressing leather, vinyl, etc - and then dress your tires and exterior trim, and then put everything away you should be well beyond that 30 minute time period and the NXT will be fully dried. It will still wipe off without effort but you shouldn't have any streaking.
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When did you buy your bottle of NXT? Did you use your present bottle on your silver cars without problems? Just trying here to rule out defective product. Meguiar's does have a 100% customer satisfaction guarantee.
 
It's possible that I'm not letting the product set up long enough before removing. Given the high humidity here in Houston, it sounds like I need to be letting it sit a while longer. I am defitely seasoned enough to know better than to do anything in the sun, but the heat is nearly impossible to avoid here. If I don't see any responses indicating a reaction issue with the other products I use, then I will just let it sit for a while longer next time.
 
KatyM45S said:
It's possible that I'm not letting the product set up long enough before removing. Given the high humidity here in Houston, it sounds like I need to be letting it sit a while longer. .
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Give that a try and let us know if it works out better. Could be that any streaking just didn't show up on your silver vehicles and on black it really stands out!
 
Luster said:
Give that a try and let us know if it works out better. Could be that any streaking just didn't show up on your silver vehicles and on black it really stands out!
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This is what I'm thinking. I've learned that anyone can make silver look good! It is just a sinking feeling when you pull your baby out to look at it after several hours and its streaked. Given all the variables (pads, products, machine, weather, etc) I was just interested in hearing if other people have had problems with NXT.

My new Infiniti is proving to be the biggest test to my detailing know-how and patience with its black "hard" clear coat. I hate to buy new products designed for "hard" clear coats when I have nearly new bottles of Menzerna Intensive and Final polishes sitting on my shelf. But Intensive Polish on an orange pad with my PC doesn't seems to do much of anything with the swirls.
 
KatyM45S said:
But Intensive Polish on an orange pad with my PC doesn't seems to do much of anything with the swirls.
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I've switched exclusively to M105/Orange for moderate swirls on hard clearcoat. For heavy swirls, I use M105/Yellow.

I know it's pricey, but, for me, there's no comparison.
 
Luster said:
I've switched exclusively to M105/Orange for moderate swirls on hard clearcoat. For heavy swirls, I use M105/Yellow.

I know it's pricey, but, for me, there's no comparison.
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Thanks Luster. I'm currently on a mission to find M105 and 205 in a retail store nearby. I tend to get the itch to work on my cars with short notice and I don't like waiting for stuff in the mail! It took me about 5 years to finally order something from Proper Auto Care.
 
KatyM45S said:
Thanks Luster. I'm currently on a mission to find M105 and 205 in a retail store nearby. I tend to get the itch to work on my cars with short notice and I don't like waiting for stuff in the mail! It took me about 5 years to finally order something from Proper Auto Care.
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5 Years......:scared:
 
KatyM45S said:
Thanks Luster. I'm currently on a mission to find M105 and 205 in a retail store nearby. .
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I started looking for M105/205 back in January. No local stores were carrying it at that time. I finally bought it from Amazon. BIG MISTAKE!

Cheap price but the shipping/delivery was AGONIZINGLY slow. It took 2 MONTHS to get the M205!!!
If I had to do it again... no question... www.properautocare.com
 
Just wanted to give an update on the NXT smearing issue...

I applied a pretty even coat using a PC and a red pad, let it sit overnight (humidity was very high last night) and wiped it off this morning.

STILL STREAKED!!!! :cursing::cursing::cursing:

Sprayed and wiped with the NXT Detailing Spray and it didn't really help.

I think I'm smelling another purchase from PAC coming up!!! Couldn't get the scratches out with the most aggressive stuff I own (affectionately referred to as "rocks in a bottle" by Todd) and my sealant smears! Geesh! After 13 years of this, I still feel like a novice most of the time! Time for the $100 KBM kit I guess.
 
Jim, letting NXT stay on the surface too long can be just as bad as removing it too quickly. As Tim Lingor wrote a year ago on MOL, with specific reference to NXT:

Allowing a wax to sit on the paint too long before removal is just as bad as removing it too soon. Leaving the product dry for longer than necessary before removing can cause streaking. Therefore, I would suggest using the Swipe Test, removing the product when it is ready to be removed.
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I confess, though, that I personally prefer a wax like Souveran or Fuzion that I can apply and wipe off, if not immediately then at least very quickly. (I haven't tried Midnight Sun yet, though I understand that it too is basically WOWO.) I don't want to worry about drying times and swipe tests if I don't have to. :)
 
I'll agree with that akimel; sometimes easier is also better. i'm going to try another coat tonight and see if I can even it out, as well as maybe add another small layer of protection. I'd like to go to a carnuba wax, but my cars are both daily drivers and sit in the sun all day. From what I've read and experienced, my car would look great for about a day and then the wax would melt/evaporate. Oh, the joys of black cars!!!
 
KatyM45S said:
i'm going to try another coat tonight and see if I can even it out, as well as maybe add another small layer of protection. I'd like to go to a carnuba wax, but my cars are both daily drivers and sit in the sun all day. From what I've read and experienced, my car would look great for about a day and then the wax would melt/evaporate. Oh, the joys of black cars!!!
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A lot of sealants and waxes look better the next day after they've had a chance to "cure" overnight.

I've had some streaking problems with sealants, and they always look better the next day. Problem is if I'm applying to a customer's car, I want it to look good when he picks it up! I can't really say to a customer: "Your car will look great tomorrow!":out:

The most problems I've had with streaking sealants are in very high humidity on dark colors.

A second coat of sealant almost always removes the streaks. Sometimes a QD wipe works, sometimes not.
 
Jokeman said:
Are you using the liquid or the paste NXT2? I used the liquid....streaks. When I used the paste it was fine.
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I was using the liquid. I typically apply by machine, so I don't use paste. Switching to BF Wet Diamond I think.

Luster said:
A lot of sealants and waxes look better the next day after they've had a chance to "cure" overnight.

I've had some streaking problems with sealants, and they always look better the next day. Problem is if I'm applying to a customer's car, I want it to look good when he picks it up! I can't really say to a customer: "Your car will look great tomorrow!":out:
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Yeah, that would be tough for business!! I planned to put another coat on last night, but then...IT RAINED!!! :cursing: Will either do a full wash tomorrow or a detail spray wipedown (only a few drops of rain...what a mess).
 
Long time NXT 2.0 user here and I've never had the streaking issue, although as others have said, it usually accompanies either using too much product or insufficient drying time.

Having said that, I think your choice to move to BF Wet Diamond is a good one. I'm a convert and a happy one at that. Great product, easy on/off, non-staining and "bubba proof" (as it's been called here before). LOL

You won't regret the switch.
 
BFWD!!!!!
BFWD!!!!!
BFWD!!!!!
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I'm wondering if you are having the same problem that I was having? You said that you used a polish prior to using the NXT? Is it possible that you are having an "oiling" problem like I was.

When I got done using my M105/M205 on my car, I washed the car and then went into applying my WD. After having put it all on, I noticed that the car was "smearing" like you were talking about, like it was covered in a film. Talked to Angelo and he told me that was because of the oils that the compound and polish left behind. He instructed me to do a wipe down on the car using 50/50 alcohol/water, and I did. Problem solved. Of course, after you do this, it strips your wax/sealant off, so you have to re-apply.

Either way, I think the WD switch is a good one as well. I just put 2 coats on my car, i'm happy with it.
 
I did a black truck the other day with NXT2 paste since it was a freebie. Put it on nice and thin.........streaked bad. Quick detail spray didnt help. Tossed a coat of wet diamond over it and it helped a little. Called it good since it was a freebie.
 
I first tried NXT first generation and promptly bought it back for a refund. It was the liquid and it was impossible to work with. I now keep NXT 2.0 paste wax around and it does a great job. Right now I only use it on my car the paint is toast from a bad auto body job and it is the only thing that masks all the issues in the paint.
If I ever get smearing from over application or not letting it set up properly I just use a spray bottle with distilled water and a micro fiber cloth this has always worked for me. I usually always have a issue in the middle of my hood because of a engine block heater. It just always smears.
 
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