Meg # 7 or 3M IHG with AIO??

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WAX2MUCH

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Does anyone ever use a glaze such as #7 or IHG before or after using AIO??



With AIO is it necessary to be concerned about replenishing paint oils with a prep glaze?



Since AIO is a combo cleaner/sealant maybe #7 type glazes do not work anyway.



Thanks for any info.
 
Looks like you sorta suspect the answers to your Qs, and IMO you're right.



Unless you're talking about single stage paint, the "replenish the oils" thing isn't a big issue and yes, the AIO will clean those two products off anyhow. So there's no real point in using IHG or #7 before AIO.



If you ARE talking about ss, then opinions vary. *I* like using stuff like #7 on ss lacquer and *I* don't use AIO on it. But plenty of people DO use Klasse on ss, especially on acrylic enamel, and THEY love the results. This is probably a personal preference thing, at least to some extent. And I sincerely doubt that anyone's gonna mess up their paint by using Klasse on it. It's been around, and popular, since the days of (only) ss paint.
 
Accumulator- thanks for the reply.



As a follow up, on clearcoated paint I assume the products are only working on that layer....so a product like #7 would only affect the clearcoat?.......does any product migrate through to the basecoat at all?
 
Nah, nothing's gonna get through the clear to the basecoat. The best you can do is "condition" the clear. Note that there are some glazes that are better suited to use on b/c, like Meg's #81. I myself sorta question "conditioning" b/c at all. I've never had clearcoat failure, and I kept some of my b/c cars for quite a while.
 
Sounds like glazes are not really necessary on clearcoats if you clean, wax or seal your cars regularly. On clearcoats, I read that alot of people just do a 2-step process of AIO and a carnauba or synthetic topper and have great results.
 
Glazes aren't for "replenishing the oils" because there are no oils to replenish.



A lot of people use glaze on clearcoated paint and it still has a similar job, that is to fill in and hide microscopic defects.



On either type of paint really, you can do:



Glaze/carnauba

No glaze/sealant
 
4DSC said:
Glazes aren't for "replenishing the oils" because there are no oils to replenish.



A lot of people use glaze on clearcoated paint and it still has a similar job, that is to fill in and hide microscopic defects.



On either type of paint really, you can do:



Glaze/carnauba

No glaze/sealant
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Eh....I agree with MOST of the above, but not all of it ;)



OK, yeah, it's not necessarily "replenishing oils", but using a glaze like #7 on ss lacquer DOES "revitalize" it and, uhm, "wets" it in the "rehydrating" sense. Heh heh, we could make this a lot more complicated and technically correct wording-wise, but I think I'm getting the idea across. I recently used it on neglected but NOT oxidized 29 year old lacquer and it REALLY removed the "dryness" I noticed before the (multiple applications of) #7. The paint just soaked it up like a sponge- TOTALLY different from applying that particular glaze to MOST paints. Remember that SOME ss paints are very different from acrylic enamel ss and basecoat/clear.



But none of this probably has anything to do with what softballnut is asking about :o Using a glaze that's designed to work with b/c paint (Meg's #81, Mother's) will make the paint shinier and will fill in imperfections when used under wax, as 4DSC said.
 
Yeah, I almost regret posting that, because as soon as I did I vaguely recalled a similar discussion to the same effect by Mike Phillips at some point in the hazy past.... :o
 
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