Maybe my expectation is to high.

Beercan31

Beercan31

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before I get in to it I will not mention who, what or where to protect those I'm bashing

I just can not believe the level of dishonest places/people, piss poor workman ship and the amount of money paid just to get to get screwed.

This is a brand new REMOUNT.. 2008 ford F450 chassis with a Medtec class III body, over all everything was nice, it worked... lights, oxygen, siren, it saves lives.

If you paid well over $60.000.00+ for a job would you deliver it to your customer looking like this?
Hopefully not.
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This was after wet sanding with 2000 for 20min. it took over 20 hours of wet sanding with 2000 and 3000 grit sand paper to get the results you will see here
YES you read it correctly... I wet sanded a relatively new paint job on an ambulance because the guy/girl in the paint booth should never be aloud to handle duplicolor or testors even thoses products are to good for them.
there are no options of sending it back... the loaner veh we had was in worse shape than our the loaner veh we had was in worse shape than our original veh which was an 1995 ford f-350. there were no real good options but to do it my self. pluss i needed the exp.
I have tried a few methods with a rotary but the emblem and the white reflective stripe are vinyl and do not do very well with heat, so I resorted to wet sanding and slow no heat polishing... this made the job a hell of a lot longer, but the results were much the same.
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here are a few photos of before and afters
before
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Ooh what an reflection, so deep can ya smell the sarcasm?
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on the floor are 2 500w halogen lights....
after
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this is about as far as i pushed this door, i did not know with out and high end tool how much paint i was working with... pluss all the EMT's were getting a bit nervous as I was to... though better to be safe than to thin....for now.
before
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after
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after
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some might say "Dude it just an ambulance" no it more that that, we are a proud group, we love to compete, both rigs get judged each year against other departments who pride them selves also. it keeps the trucks maintained to a standard as high as our training and skill. and for most of us its fun.

Thanks for allowing me to rant,
Beercan
 
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Did they paint that with a roller?

That is a discrace, for a paint job
 
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WOW.

Since we are looking at new rigs, I gotta ask. What brand?

Well, I can beat you with piss poor workmanship.......

When our last rig was delivered, the town garage guys put it up on a lift, 2 bolts fell off. Well it seems that the box was never mounted correctly to the chassis. To make it worse, the glued the bolts where they belonged, then painted over em.
 
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That really is a bad job. You can only do so much with wetsanding. Earl Scheib would even be ashamed of that. Your expectations may have been high, but at least you tried.
 
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OWW! To me it looks like medium quality imlement paint out out an aresol can. I got paint to look just like that when I painted a tractor hood this spring. Then they clearcoated with a clear aresol too make it shiney. Been there did do that,(but it is only a damaged tractor). Its got to be a repaint!!
 
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That sucks and it needs to come off, That is bad workmanship and likely a bad shot right off the metal. Bummer. When the base didn't lay down, they should have quit then and started over.

Even the best detailers should not have to start at a 220 wet sand. It is amazing at the stuff a shop will release now. That should never have made it out of the booth.
 
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What the heck do they care its a taxpayer problem now. I hope you don't think that's the only problem they have made. Wait till the wiring and other stuff starts messing up.

I wonder how many comps the builder gave the fire chief to buy that wreck. They all seem to wonder why things happen after delivery. A private company would never take delivery of a unit looking like that. Government don't care after all they got the new truck right. After 3 years they will buy a new chassis or box anyway then ya get to start all over again.:notme:

The last IH rig they had here had "velvet ride" It was more like iron ride. The thing was back at the dealer more than it was in service. Please know with the call people driving the trucks day in and day out it's a wonder they even move at all. We had one queen at the helm and she shifted the truck into reverse at 15-20 mph while leaving an accident scene. Ya get what ya pay for in most cases. The PD just has a fender and door painted on a crown Vic you should see that blend job wow. With the many options her shop wise the went with the hack, price being a factor I am sure. BCAN you did your best bud, you gotta feel happy about that. :cheers:


I don't understand why anyone would ever be surprised.:wow:
 
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Scott P said:
That really is a bad job. You can only do so much with wetsanding. Earl Scheib would even be ashamed of that. Your expectations may have been high, but at least you tried.
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Exactly but at least he would have only charged $99.95
 
I would take that back to wherever it was doen and demand a respray or threaten to take this up with the BBB and such. I've seen better with a roller (no joke).
 
just saw two new boo boo buses on the thruway with the flat panels not painted ... the maker tag was "north eastern" on them and they were as smooth as glass ... check them out next time :notme:
 
REMOUNT.. 2008 ford F450 chassis with a Medtec class III body

this is the problem the company did it them selves and it should not have gotten passed inspection if your company does show(like you have said before) but they had you in a bad postion and now your paying.. I'm sure that rig will be inservice for a long time and everyone will talk about the bad one they got.. but never complained about
 
bigron62 said:
its called low bidder ...........you get what ya pay for .......or nobody cares
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I'd say generally that's true but there' s still a specification for them to comply with. Paint isn't usually specified other than a paint color spec i.e. not wet glass like condition when delivered. In this case I would not have accepted it but he clearly states they needed it back.

I agree with the rant though. The citizens won't notice it and it's performing it's life saving duties but from a pride standpoint it totally sucks. Looks a lot better now though.

I've always been impressed with firefighters/EMT's and the pride they take in maintaing the apparatus. My hometown FD washed the trucks/engines every day! Of course it 's probably easier when you get 6 to 8 guys/girls doing it! Sorry to hear of your experience beercan but take pride in showing it off and keep pluggin'.
 
i totally agree . that was junk . this is what people crank out now and want to get paid .. it should have been sent back later or money refunded and sent to another shop or even better would be compensate our man here for his hard work and taking pride in his company .. good job bro
 
Thanks for all the responses… WOW from conspiracy theorist to a raving lunatic like me.

Just to set the record straight WE are NOT part of the local government, we are an INC. we are Department of Health certified group who take pride in what we do…

As a amateur detailer I look at things from a different perspective.. I was NOT expecting a MIRROR finish… by no means what we got by anyone standards was expectable…period.

Yes we needed this rig back in service, even though it was close to 3 month over due to be delivered

As far as kick backs, that’s got to be the dumbest thing I read… funny but still way off based.

The low bid only has to do with government project,, again we are not.. there were many long though out discussions abt buying new or refurbishing.. if we went with new there were changes mandatory that would have to be made that would limit patients care in the box. We opted to refurb for theses reasons alone not total cost

Thanks all for the responses pros or cons
 
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