Machine application of paste waxes

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I'm pretty sure I use way too much product, especially when it comes to paste waxes so I decided I would try applying some by machine this weekend. I read the guide on here about it and am not too comfortable taking the wax out of the can to apply it to the pad. I also read somewhere about spreading the wax on the pad with a spatula or spade... Not too sure about that one either.

The best thing I could think of is using my GG 3" with a crimson H2O pad because the pad is small enough to fit right inside the container. I won't get the coverage I would get with the 5.5" pads but maybe I'll make up for it with the ease of use.

Anybody have any tips or ideas for a better way to accomplish this? My main goal of using the machine is to use less product and get better and more even coverage. Plus I don't mind if it goes quicker as well.
 
the main problem i find with using paste waxes by machine is that the container can become cross contaminated with constantly dipping in and out if you're not careful to prep and tape the vehicle first, etc. i go out of my way to use liquid waxes when applying by machine to avoid this. i usually just do paste waxing by hand and change pads often.
 
There's paste waxes that you can apply to machine. 1Z Einszett I believe makes a wax that comes out like an underarm deoderant bar. And I've heard of people taking wax out of the can. But IMO, wax should be put on by hand. A machine will not be able to get all the areas that your hand can, and it won't do a better job either. When your adding protection, the only thing to worry about is getting good coverage.
 
Griot's Garage has videos for applying waxes with their 6" orbital and carnauba wax stick and 3" orbital and premium carnauba paste wax. I still do it by hand with a 3" pad and pad holder and take the pad off the holder for the tight areas. If I don't use the holder my hand has a tendency to cramp and the holder takes care of that.
 
For my winter protection I used Finish Kare FK1000p and applied it using a GG 6". The wax is pretty solid and it doesn't come out of the can. I really didn't want to use my kitchen utensils for wax so I cut a chunk of plastic out of an ice cream pail cover in the shape of a spatula or a putty knife shape and scraped a real tiny bit of wax from the can and smeared it across the pad and it worked great. A couple times I did scrape a little too much out as a little bit goes a long way. I did apply 3 coats to the car, twice the same weekend with the machine and a week or 2 later I applied once by hand and I will definitely go back to spreading it on the pad in the future as it was way easy by machine.

Dean. ;)
 
Custom Care said:
I'm pretty sure I use way too much product, especially when it comes to paste waxes so I decided I would try applying some by machine this weekend. I read the guide on here about it and am not too comfortable taking the wax out of the can to apply it to the pad. I also read somewhere about spreading the wax on the pad with a spatula or spade... Not too sure about that one either.

The best thing I could think of is using my GG 3" with a crimson H2O pad because the pad is small enough to fit right inside the container. I won't get the coverage I would get with the 5.5" pads but maybe I'll make up for it with the ease of use.

Anybody have any tips or ideas for a better way to accomplish this? My main goal of using the machine is to use less product and get better and more even coverage. Plus I don't mind if it goes quicker as well.
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I tried this exact thing (once)
But...... When I put the pad in container, I hit the trigger jut for a second to ensure coverage on the pad.

I got way too much and it sort of liquefied the wax on the pad
 
Thanks for all the input, We're supposed to have some good weather this weekend so after I get my first yard cut of the season knocked out I plan to try a couple of the methods you all have suggested. I may even try to do my first video if I can find my mini tripod somewhere around the house.

Edit - After doing a little more research I came across a couple post where I saw Mike Phillips laying down wax primarily with the Rupes 75 and the GG 3", looks like he was using the Rupes 100mm (4") white finishing pad. The pad is tapered so it looks like the 3" backing plate fits it perfectly. I'll have to pick one up in my next order and give it a try.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...kfire-blackice-hybrid-montan-sealant-wax.html
 
I apply most paste waxes by machine. The ones that pop out of the container.... Take a piece of crumbled newspaper and put it in the container so just a bit of the wax sticks out. That way you can still keep in the container and just rub the machin pad over it when you need to add more wax.

Waxes that do jot come out if the container....... A plastic butter knife works well.


Machine applying really does save product and allow ultra thin application which makes even the most difficult to work with wax easy to remove.
 
I dont normally pop it out of the container, but flip it over where product meets the pad and then smear it using the container. Some paste waxes work like that, others not so much....
 
Dr Oldz said:
I apply most paste waxes by machine. The ones that pop out of the container.... Take a piece of crumbled newspaper and put it in the container so just a bit of the wax sticks out. That way you can still keep in the container and just rub the machin pad over it when you need to add more wax.

Waxes that do jot come out if the container....... A plastic butter knife works well.


Machine applying really does save product and allow ultra thin application which makes even the most difficult to work with wax easy to remove.
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What do you know about paste waxes anyway?!?!?!?..... :lol2:
 
Dr Oldz said:
I apply most paste waxes by machine. The ones that pop out of the container.... Take a piece of crumbled newspaper and put it in the container so just a bit of the wax sticks out. That way you can still keep in the container and just rub the machin pad over it when you need to add more wax.

Waxes that do jot come out if the container....... A plastic butter knife works well.


Machine applying really does save product and allow ultra thin application which makes even the most difficult to work with wax easy to remove.
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Great advice and I agree! :yourrock
 
It would be interesting to see a carnuaba wax dispense like a roll on deodorant... Speed Stick Style..at least for the softer waxes.

Did Griot's have something like that?
 
Bunky said:
It would be interesting to see a carnuaba wax dispense like a roll on deodorant... Speed Stick Style..at least for the softer waxes.

Did Griot's have something like that?
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If my aging memory serves me right...........

DODO did it with SN, but it wasn't same formula as SN
 
Bunky said:
It would be interesting to see a carnuaba wax dispense like a roll on deodorant... Speed Stick Style..at least for the softer waxes.

Did Griot's have something like that?
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Yes, Griot's does have it and it's $9.99 for 3.5oz. and it does look like a roll-on deodorant.
 
I went ahead and waxed the wife's Accord yesterday using the GG 3" and crimson h2o pads. I got the entire vehicle done in probably 30%-50% less time than by hand and feel like I not only used less product but also got a more complete and even application. I will be making a small ACC order here hopefully this week and will be picking up the 100mm White Rupes pad to test out on the next vehicle I wax.
 
Bunky said:
It would be interesting to see a carnuaba wax dispense like a roll on deodorant... Speed Stick Style..at least for the softer waxes.

Did Griot's have something like that?
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They have a Carnuba wax in stick form that looks exactly like a deodorant stick that you smear on the pad. It looks like there best of show wax and their polishes have a round tip type applicator with a small hole in it but no ball. I have not used any of their waxes or polishes but have used there clay, Speed Shine, paint prep.

Dean. :D
 
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