Looking to get that Wet look, Help Please

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Hello, New to polishing cars and I have never tried to get that "Wet" ,"Deep Shine" look that some people get. I would like to try my hand at getting that deep wet look but don`t know how to go about it. Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations ? I was thinking of trying Griots Liquid Gloss Poly Wax for this. Would this be a good place to start ?
Thank you for ANY help.
 
Yeah, I want to know, too!

I think a big part of it has to do with polishing the paint well. Some LSPs can also help. Oh, and the right lighting / shading etc could help!
Would you consider this wet looking? This Kia was done somewhat recently using Blackfire`s Wet Fire Over Ice kit


 
Griots poly wax followed 24 hours later by best of show is exactly what you’re looking for! The 24 hours is to let the polymers cure in the synthetic poly wax.
 
Most of the gloss is going to come from polishing. A wax, sealant or coating will add a little and is often seen as the icing on the cake.

You may want to check and see if you need to clay prior to applying that protection product as a good start.
 
Hey guys thnx for the help/info and pointing me in a direction. Now I have some decisions to make and things to try :)
 
Assuming the prep is OK, this gets into the minutia of "jetting vs. shine"/"depth vs. reflection"/etc.

The answer used to be "finish it all off with a high-oils/max. carnauba type wax" (e.g., M26 instead of M16, or Souveran vs. P21s, or 915 vs. 845), but now some sealants can fit the bill too. Blackfire comes to mind, it did this exact thing so much that I didn`t like it on silver. FK`s version is FK1000P topped with their Pink Wax.
 
Accumulator said:
Assuming the prep is OK, this gets into the minutia of "jetting vs. shine"/"depth vs. reflection"/etc.

The answer used to be "finish it all off with a high-oils/max. carnauba type wax" (e.g., M26 instead of M16, or Souveran vs. P21s, or 915 vs. 845), but now some sealants can fit the bill too. Blackfire comes to mind, it did this exact thing so much that I didn`t like it on silver. FK`s version is FK1000P topped with their Pink Wax.
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Would using Pink Wax as a topper compromise FK1000P`s longevity?
 
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Wet enough? Mc Kess 10 min. paint sealant. And Mc Kess rinse free wash & wax used after washes as a drying aid.
 
I always thought Souveran gave me the best “wet look” where sealants would give more of a “glassy” look, as will some coatings. I think Accumulator is on the right track.
 
I got that wet look on a 09 Ford Sport Track in black . I washed , clay, cleaned the paint with Klasse all in one and followed with Technitions Choice Ceramic . You could almost see the colors of your eyes in the hood. the truck is my sisters , she couldnt be happier.
 
Caraman said:
Would using Pink Wax as a topper compromise FK1000P`s longevity?
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I can approach/overthink that enough to come up with different answers :o

NO...because it`s adding something to the FK1000P and that something won`t degrade the FK1000P. (Well, at least I have no reason to suspect that it would.)

YES...in the long run...because once you top it you can`t just apply another coat of FK1000P now and then to maintain it in perpetuity.

I have zero doubt that it`d improve the look, on some paints, in the eyes of many people, so I guess it gets down to whether you`re in the Form or Function camp. For me, the idea of going back to (relatively) bare paint after [however long] to start over with FK1000P and then Pink isn`t worth it, even if all you need to do is AIO/etc. the vehicle. I`m kinda OK with reLSPing annually, but even that is more than I like. But that`s just me and I bet most Autopians would have zero problem redoing it all every now and then.
 
Does this look wet enough?

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This is bare paint, FK1000P is to come.
 

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This is one of those things that I can`t evaluate from internet (or other) pics, I`d have to see the vehicle in person under the right conditions to even venture an opinion. It`s *that* subtle (and maybe even that subjective, but I could argue that either way). Anyhow...

TheMeanGreen said:
... FK1000P is to come.
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Interesting...much as I love FK1000P, to my eyes it gives the exact *opposite* if the wet/deep/jetting look. Switching to it from 476S diminished those characteristics dramatically, imparting a whole appearance that some would say was like a completely different paintjob. On a Classic, where IMO the objective should be to maximize the "this is old single stage paint" look, I`d lean towards at least topping it with something like their Pink Wax.

If I ever do get the Jag out of mothballs, I honestly don`t know whether I could stand seeing it with (only) FK1000P on it. And that`s a color that some would describe as "silver".
 
Accumulator said:
Interesting...much as I love FK1000P, to my eyes it gives the exact *opposite* if the wet/deep/jetting look. Switching to it from 476S diminished those characteristics dramatically, imparting a whole appearance that some would say was like a completely different paintjob. On a Classic, where IMO the objective should be to maximize the "this is old single stage paint" look, I`d lean towards at least topping it with something like their Pink Wax.

If I ever do get the Jag out of mothballs, I honestly don`t know whether I could stand seeing it with (only) FK1000P on it. And that`s a color that some would describe as "silver".
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I know how to make FK1000P look wet... This classic was also repainted in the early 90’s or late 80’s with base coat/clear coat.
 
TheMeanGreen said:
I know how to make FK1000P look wet...
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I have zero doubt :D Guess my reply was more for anybody looking to this thread for ideas.

I`m curious about what you have planned for it :D

This classic was also repainted in the early 90’s or late 80’s with base coat/clear coat.
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Ah, yeah...a lot of `em got switched over to b/c, and I figure that`ll continue since there`s so little good ss out there now.

Trying to tone down the "b/c look" on my pal`s Jag took a little doing...and I bet that nobody else even knew what I was talking about!
 
Accumulator said:
I have zero doubt :D Guess my reply was more for anybody looking to this thread for ideas.

I`m curious about what you have planned for it :D



Ah, yeah...a lot of `em got switched over to b/c, and I figure that`ll continue since there`s so little good ss out there now.

Trying to tone down the "b/c look" on my pal`s Jag took a little doing...and I bet that nobody else even knew what I was talking about!
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I think PB Blackhole, Ex-P, and Natty`s Black may be your ticket, it will be tough to make that b/c look like ss. I`d personally revel in the fact that it is b/c and make sure that the wheels and tires a period correct, to bring the car back to its original look.
 
Somehow this "wet-look" question ALWAYS leads into the mantra, "it`s not the wax, it`s the surface preparation". I still think that is true, to some degree. Wet-sanded, multi-layered custom paint jobs will look (sooooooo much) better due to the lack of now-so-common production paint orange peel.


Yes, certain waxes do lend themselves to that wet-look; Pinnacle Souveran, comes to mind as being the standard for that look.
That said, when I see pictures in this forum of those vehicles that have been properly prepped (IE; compounded, polished, and jeweled), then coated with some of the best coatings on the market, they rival that "look" of any wax, and, hence, their popularity by detailers and vehicle aficionados today.

I am stilled waiting for a major Concourse D`Elegance event Best of Show Winner to have the distinction of being "Coated with Brand-X" and the accolades that go with it. Maybe it has happened already, though, and I am not aware of it. If it is, I am sure Detail512 and his Polish Angel prowess had something to do with it!!
 
TheMeanGreen- Ah, yeah...I haven`t used those but based on what I read here that oughta work well.

Huh, you *LIKE* b/c? I gotta say that on some cars (including older ones) I absolutely prefer *very high quality* ss. Just love the look...I`ve always said that I`d rather sell my Jag than see it in b/c (and most would call it "silver"). BUT...OK, from a Pro Detailer`s perspective b/c is a lot neater to work on all right!

Hey, good on you for mentioning the wheels/tires. The choice of Tire Slime, uhm..I mean "Tire Dressing"...for instance.
 
Try using the PA Contour prep polish and the Carnaubaflocken crème Famous (there`s some color choices that may suit you: PASSION,CENTURION, and SNOWHITE). Great look and great protection. The richness of color it provides may be unsurpassed.
 
What some people consider wet others might consider plasticy. Waxes generally are generally considered more wet but for ease of use and pretty good looks, I like Z8. Also, I use Duragloss rinseless wash and found that it gives a nice look and that the beading lasts for a couple weeks. Really, you aren`t going to get much more than that out of the majority of waxes with the exception of FK or Collinite.

And the old time trick for single stage paint was to rub it down with kerosene for that wet look. The new trick is to use WD40 but that isn`t going to last more than a day or so and will attract dirt.

As for topping a product, as to whether it will degrade the underlying sealant depends on what solvents are in the topper. P21S is probably OK. Water based sprays would be OK.
 
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