Like it or not winter is arround the corner, QUESTIONS...

mesoam

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Here in the NE things are cooling down and its about to get crappy in a few months



I decided I will be driving my car this winter instead of picking up a winter beater



I allready have a NICE full set of OEM rubber mats and a good set of seperate wheels/tires



Looking for advise on best waxes/sealants to use on the car during the horrid months



I don't care much about the shine but more about the protection factor



I will be taking the car to a "wash it yourself" place (with my own product, for as long as i don't get kicked out)



Any other tips would be appreciated
 
Yep, any of those, plus the Klasse twins, oughta work fine. FWIW, our winter beater will be getting Collinite and the minivan will have KSG.
 
Accumulator said:
Yep, any of those, plus the Klasse twins, oughta work fine. FWIW, our winter beater will be getting Collinite and the minivan will have KSG.



Out of curiosity, which Collinite? ... or does it really matter?



For winter, I think I'll be trying UPP topped with OCW. I've never tried it but interested in how the results will turn out.
 
good thing the horrible months in FL are about to pass, i love Florida winters, no rain, no snow and a lovely temp :) even though summer time is horrible with the nasty every day thunderstorm
 
Denzil said:
Out of curiosity, which Collinite? ... or does it really matter?



For winter, I think I'll be trying UPP topped with OCW. I've never tried it but interested in how the results will turn out.



This one is turning out to be 845 x 2 topped with 476S (two layers so far, more to come between now and winter).



I dunno about the UPP/OCW for winter. Noting that I've never used OCW, the UPP I use on the S8 really needs refreshed after almost every wash during winter. It seems like the harsh conditions and the correspondingly more aggressive washes combine to rapidly take their toll on the UPP's slickness (which makes me wonder about its durability). I either reapply it or occasionally just do a post-wash spritz with UGE. Not sure how the OCW will factor in but somehow, oh, I dunno....I'd just give it a bit of thought as the combo doesn't strike me as a real winter-handler.
 
1. Zaino

2. Duragloss

3. Old Klasse Twins

4. Collinite Wax



I've got Zaino on my car since 6/06. One more coat of Z-2P in OCT should do it. Then, like DARKSTI, maintain it with Z6/Z7/Z8.
 
I used the Klasse twins x2 and collinite paste wax (915 and fleetwax)x2 last winter here in New England..and it did a superb job...road grime and salt just sprayed off no problem..and beading went into early June before I did the truck over for the sumeer...



This winter I am going to try Duragloss prodcts...105 x 3 and AW..I am still contemplating topping with Collinite..as this stuff is bullet proof in the winter...and use AW on top of the Collinite...I know the DG will go the winter..but the collinite will be hard as a rock from winter cold and make a good barrier to take the beating...



Al
 
In about a month (mid October) I'm going to prep my car for the winter time. I'm thinking it'll get 3 layers of DG #105, then a double shot of Megs #16 all over the span of about a week. Probably a little overkill ;) but they sure use a lot of salt on the roads around here..

- Andrew
 
I don't think the brand of wax or sealant really matters; as long as you have a layer of something, and renewing it once in a while, that's just about all we can do.



What exactly is the wax protecting the paint from? I'm assuming there's not much we can do about the layer of ice that will just provide pressure and movement for any loose grit against the paint. Perhaps a slick wax/sealant will provide some help in this department. Regardless, I'm just going to put my efforts into removing the snow with as little damage as possible.



I'm assuming that marring from snow, and the ice that forms underneath is inevitable. Here's a link I pulled up that may offer some tips. I'm starting to feel depressed; no more detailing in the garage. Perhaps a portable heater is in order! :nervous2:



Anyways, do a serch on "Snow Removal" for titles only, there's a few threads that basically regurgitates what I've said. http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14914&highlight=snow+removal





Autopians, wish us northerners' good luck! :sadpace:





Best regards,

--Gabe
 
I need to wash my Jeep today and I'm thinking of starting with the AIO/SG too, figure I can put another coat of SG on every few weeks until it is too cold and I should be all set for at least a little bit.
 
BMWWW said:
I don't think the brand of wax or sealant really matters; as long as you have a layer of something, and renewing it once in a while, that's just about all we can do...



I would say that on the contrary, the type of wax/sealant is still very important. If you get a wax which doesn't protect very well (some waxes aim for looks only, not durability), then you will have to wax every 1-2 weeks, which is not practical when it's 15 degrees outside :) On the other hand, if you put on a good few layers of Collinite, Zaino, or the Klasse Twins, it should protect you for up to 6-7 months! That means you will not need to rewax the car during the winter, but rather just wash it when needed or just a quickly rinse with water when it's not too cold.



BMWWW said:
What exactly is the wax protecting the paint from?



A main reason everyone obsesses over waxes to use during the winter is because the road salts used for the snow/ice is extremely corrosive and can eat through your paint if it is not protected properly. Without protection, your car is basically naked with all the (possibly) acidic precipitation from the snow/slush/rain that falls during the winter.



For that reason, it is also smart to spray down the underbody of your car during the winter (when needed) to prevent premature rusting on the underside of the car. Just clean it and get most of the salt down. This well definitely help a lot.
 
I too think the choice of LSP can matter, at least if you take full advantage of the potential of some products (ability to layer, etc.). But there are just *so* many variables....The only product I can ever just apply and then forget about (as in, for months with no problems) is KSG, and only with a lot of layers (six worked better than four).



UnsanePyro said:
I need to wash my Jeep today and I'm thinking of starting with the AIO/SG too, figure I can put another coat of SG on every few weeks until it is too cold and I should be all set for at least a little bit.



That's what I do on the minivan (used a lot the last few winters) and it works great. Better even than Collinite, which I'm using on the Blazer I just picked up (as a winter beater). I plan to keep an eye on how the two vehicles' LSPs compare, even though the minivan gets garaged and the Blazer probably won't.
 
Im going to start to prep for winter also. I plan on doing alot of late season waterfowl hunting, that can be rough on the paint! Like you, I use the "scratch n wash" with my own products :D I find that if I hit it up around 8 or 9 no one is there to see! PLus its nice and cool and empty so youre not in a rush. My new apts will have a car wash bay just for bucket washing! Sooo excited! Ill probably load up on 3 coats of Z5 Pro and 24hrs later throw on 3 more of Z2 Pro. Im gonna need some more Z6!
 
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