ZL1Mark
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LC Waffle Pro Pads utilize open cell foam?
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Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
It depends on the foam...
Most foams, including most by Lake Country are open celled... even foams which claim to closed cell are really open celled.
The Hydro-Tech Line uses closed-cell foam.
The white foam in their standard line up (CCS, Hi-Gloss) uses a hybrid of closed and open-celled foam.
The Meguiar's SoftBuff 2.0 burgandy cutting foam is closed cell.
Griot's polishing "orange" foam is closed cell.
Most foams, including most by Lake Country are open celled... even foams which claim to closed cell are really open celled.
The Hydro-Tech Line uses closed-cell foam.
The white foam in their standard line up (CCS, Hi-Gloss) uses a hybrid of closed and open-celled foam.
The Meguiar's SoftBuff 2.0 burgandy cutting foam is closed cell.
Griot's polishing "orange" foam is closed cell.
ZL1Mark
Allergic to One Product
Hey Todd,
I just spoke with Eric at LC and he said the white and orange waffle pro are closed cell. I'm wondering how these finish compared to HT's?
FWIW, I find the white LC flat pad to gum up and spit dried polish. Not sure why...
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
I'm not sure but I can play with both. Have you had that problem (gumming and spitting) with SF4500?
ZL1Mark
Allergic to One Product
I tried it with HD ADAPT & Uber Compound. Granted, these are not light polishes, I thought they might work well with the white pad. Both polishes worked great with an HT tangerine pad. I'm going to try the waffle pro with my 3401. Never tried SF4500 with the LC white pad.
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David Patterson@LakeCountry
Dave@Lake Country Mfg.
The Waffle Pro orange pad is closed cell, the Waffle Pro white pad is OPEN cell - it is not the same white polishing pad as the flat or flat CCS pads. Just to make sure there are no confusions.
ZL1Mark
Allergic to One Product
I'm aware the waffle pro white is a compounding pad, not polishing. Eric told me the white waffle is closed and I think he knows best.
David Patterson@LakeCountry
Dave@Lake Country Mfg.
What polisher are you using it with?
ZL1Mark
Allergic to One Product
Will be trying them with the Flex 3401.
David Patterson@LakeCountry
Dave@Lake Country Mfg.
I know Eric is very knowledgeable. I also work with Lake Country and can promise it is an open celled pad. There must have been some misunderstanding when you had spoke with him. I just wanted to make sure there is no confusion.
ZL1Mark
Allergic to One Product
Gotcha.
I may have mis-understood him. The orange cell is the only closed pad in the line-up?How do the waffle pads finish? Generally speaking...
David Patterson@LakeCountry
Dave@Lake Country Mfg.
I really like that Waffle white pad with a rotary, but I must admit I haven't worked with those combos before on a 3401. Look forward to your results and feedback for sure!
David Patterson@LakeCountry
Dave@Lake Country Mfg.
I think they finish pretty well, especially when using a heavier polish or compound. I think I'll be playing around with these pads on the 3401 this weekend.
David Patterson@LakeCountry
Dave@Lake Country Mfg.
Closed Cell pads absorb less product, keeping the polish to the surface. Overall less product is used, and when used with water-based polishes, can extend the working/or cycle time.
These foams keep the polish/abrasive at the painted surface, rather than being absorbed/embedded into the foam.
It really comes down to personal preference, technique, and the polishes being used.
Todd@RUPES
Just a regular guy
I wouldn't get too caught up in the type of foam, other than just for knowledge and banter.
Focus more on the results you get.
Open cell tends to be more durable and closed cell tends to get a higher level of finish for cutting ability, but these are just guidelines. Sometimes, with some polishes, keeping the polish on the surface of the pad will increase gumming. Look at each pad individually.
ZL1Mark
Allergic to One Product
Such a knowledgeable professional detailer! :yourrock