Lake Country cyan euro-foam pads?

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Has anyone used the new or newer blue (cyan) 5.5" pads from LC? They are thin.. 7/8" and called Hydro Tec- I think.



At SEMA, someone gave my friend one and with 105 and a DA, he is getting incredible results.



Thanks, Rob
 
My experience with the Cyan pads is they cut better than LC orange, finish very well and soak up less product. The downside is their lifespan is very short comparatively. And they shred easily as well.
 
My experience with the 7/8" thick cyan HT pads has been similar to Mike's. They are a great cutting pad for use with a DA but don't expect them to last as long as the more traditional foam pads from LC.
 
Thank you for the reply. Even though they are $$- here they are: Lake Country 5.5" Hydro Tech H20 Cyan Cutting Pad



I have a source for $5 each if I buy a case. Maybe someone wants to split? I will take care of shipping.



My friend says that due to the 7/8" in thickness that more energy is transferred to the paint, thus more heat and faster correction- he really likes them and has used everything over his 26 years owning a detail business.



I have been using the yellow Megs. pads for both 105 and 205- pretty good results, but if something levels better, I'm all for that.



I will order them on Tuesday from the "contact". If anyone wants to get a few for that price, it'll help me justify to the wife why I'm getting a case of pads.



Thanks, Rob
 
How many are in a case?



And I have really liked the results from these pads. I have the previous, thicker versions and they worked well, but the 7/8 I can imagine are 100x nicer to work with. I have also used the Tangerine H2O pads and loved those as well.



WCD said:
Thank you for the reply. Even though they are $$- here they are: Lake Country 5.5" Hydro Tech H20 Cyan Cutting Pad



I have a source for $5 each if I buy a case. Maybe someone wants to split? I will take care of shipping.



My friend says that due to the 7/8" in thickness that more energy is transferred to the paint, thus more heat and faster correction- he really likes them and has used everything over his 26 years owning a detail business.



I have been using the yellow Megs. pads for both 105 and 205- pretty good results, but if something levels better, I'm all for that.



I will order them on Tuesday from the "contact". If anyone wants to get a few for that price, it'll help me justify to the wife why I'm getting a case of pads.



Thanks, Rob
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I assume 24 at the most..some cases are 12. I will keep what I can't send for $5 each...but on Autopia, chances are I might need more than a case! :)
 
I can see the advantage of thinner pads if you're using a PC/Flex, the thicker pads rip themselves in half in no time flat, thinner would prevent the weebles and wobbles that start the road to ruin.
 
mikenap said:
My experience with the Cyan pads is they cut better than LC orange, finish very well and soak up less product. The downside is their lifespan is very short comparatively. And they shred easily as well.
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WCD said:
My friend says that due to the 7/8" in thickness that more energy is transferred to the paint, thus more heat and faster correction- he really likes them and has used everything over his 26 years owning a detail business.
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Yes! Great cut, but durability isn't the best compared to their other offerings. The only thing that cuts better via DA is a SurBuf pad.
 
I would like to apologize for offering the cyan pads for $5 each last week. I have been selling LC pads for about 10 years and in that time was never told a formula for mark up--some things are 2x cost and others are not. I was offering these pads for about $3 less than what they should have been.



A person on this forum, another distributor, apparently called LC and told them I was undercutting the market. As of today, my pricing was cut so that I can not really make any profit on any LC product.



I am saddened that the person making the call did not feel comfortable sending me a PM and informing me of the mistake before calling LC and effectively, getting me "cut" from the dist. pricelist.



I did apologize to LC, but am still being kept at bay with a new "price list" that will not allow me to make more than small cut, if that.



LC is a solid product and I'm sorry that I will not be offering anything for sale- other than what is in stock.



I wish to apologize again to this forum and site for making the mistake.



Rob Regan
 
It is clear that detailing product suppliers set a floor on what their products can sell for on the market. This prohibits "walmart" like sellers (little markup) but allows many retailers to sell the product and compete. You have to decide if this is free market or not.
 
The Meguiar's SoftBuf 2.0 burgandy pad appears in my experiences to have similar/same cut as those cyan Hydro-Tech pads, but are much more durable...
 
WCD said:
I would like to apologize for offering the cyan pads for $5 each last week. I have been selling LC pads for about 10 years and in that time was never told a formula for mark up--some things are 2x cost and others are not. I was offering these pads for about $3 less than what they should have been.



A person on this forum, another distributor, apparently called LC and told them I was undercutting the market. As of today, my pricing was cut so that I can not really make any profit on any LC product.



I am saddened that the person making the call did not feel comfortable sending me a PM and informing me of the mistake before calling LC and effectively, getting me "cut" from the dist. pricelist.



I did apologize to LC, but am still being kept at bay with a new "price list" that will not allow me to make more than small cut, if that.



LC is a solid product and I'm sorry that I will not be offering anything for sale- other than what is in stock.



I wish to apologize again to this forum and site for making the mistake.



Rob Regan
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That's a total bunch of crap Rob! Sorry to hear this. I can't believe that this other person (a competing vendor) had the nerve to pull this crap causing you to loose your distribution. I see certain resellers offering blow out deals all the time. Take Amazon for example. Many times their price cannot be matched, yet you don't see people complaining about it. Even though I have a clue who it is, if you get a chance PM me this person's info.
 
David Fermani said:
That's a total bunch of crap Rob! Sorry to hear this. I can't believe that this other person (a competing vendor) had the nerve to pull this crap causing you to loose your distribution. I see certain resellers offering blow out deals all the time. Take Amazon for example. Many times their price cannot be matched, yet you don't see people complaining about it. Even though I have a clue who it is, if you get a chance PM me this person's info.
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Sounds like price fixing to me.
 
Yeah, I suspect that it's a large seller for LC and I see their point IF I was out there cheapening the product all the time- but I'm NOT dishonest, really! :)



It's just weird that for a one-time deal, I'm in a new price range. Oh well, as I emailed LC, I am off to my day-job, instructing 12 yr. olds and loving every minute of that, my family is awesome (even when I have to meet with my son's 9th grade geometry teacher), and I live in my hometown of SB, CA. It's all good and I can always sell something else, or just focus on towels- since no one can tell me how to price those!



BTW: My newest site is: Santa Barbara Auto and Car Detailing: The Auto Detailing Teacher thanks to Robert Keppel!!



Funny, I have 2 weeks off to push detailing and do videos and it's NOW going to rain for a week. That's life!



Thanks for the supportive comments, Rob
 
It is a shame what has happened to you sir. Guess some folks will do whatever it takes to protect their bottom line. It is an even bigger shame that LC feels the need to set a min price structure on the resale of their pads. Might have to start taking a look at some of the other available options, as price fixing just doesn't sit right with me. :mad2:
 
Joe in PA said:
It is a shame what has happened to you sir. Guess some folks will do whatever it takes to protect their bottom line. It is an even bigger shame that LC feels the need to set a min price structure on the resale of their pads. Might have to start taking a look at some of the other available options, as price fixing just doesn't sit right with me. :mad2:
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It is not just LC. You see this pricing on many detailing products: Flex polishers, Metro vacs, most boutique brands. The terms are they are allowed temporary reductions so most products have a automatic 10% discount (forum codes) and then sales. They can get around some of this with bundling (get a polisher but pads are less).



The rationale is to allow multiple vendors to sell a product to compete. It also protects the product maker since if one company had the lion's share of sales due to low price (undercutting everyone) they can get leverage on the product maker -- to prevent what Walmart does.
 
It is also not just limited to detailing products, it also happens with fishing gear as well. Still doesn't make it right though. The manufacturer ought to determine the wholesale price for a product and let the re-sellers determine what they wish to sell it for at retail. If the manufacture enters into a walmart type agreement, then they get what they deserve. I have no problem with a company deciding they will not sell their product at wholesale for below a certain point. I do have a problem with the same company setting a min retail price in an attempt to protect its re-sellers. In the end, we the consumer lose in a rigged market.
 
Why the hell can't you sell these products for whatever price you want? As long as the manufacturer is selling product and you're turning your inventory who cares? Even if you were selling these pads for below cost just to bring in traffic so people can purchase other products it shouldn't matter. Way too many jealous retailers out there trying to keep their thumb on competition by complaining for no reason.
 
I did get this response from a legal type person:



"Did you sign a contract about pricing?"

"No."

"Then you could eat them for breakfast if you wanted."
 
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