Is this guy for real?

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6cyl's_of_fury

its naturally curly......
I have just spent the best part of 4 hours doing the exterior of my car in the basement carpark wash bay in my units. While working the Menzerna FP, a guy parks his van and wanders over for a chat. I stop my PC as he casually flips me his business card and say that he is a professional detailer, and if I want my car done by a pro to give him a call. :rolleyes: Eerrr, yeah ok.



He then starts to ask me what I have done, so I explain that I have just done a QEW, gave it a once over with IP and Im now following up with FP. He then went on to ask me why I did two stages of polishing, and what on earth was the "buffer thing" I was using. I did my best to politely explain his questions and let him know that I have a bit ahead of me and I'd like to get on with it. He commented that my paint was really nice and swirl free, and how did I do that? :shocked Um with the two polishes I just mentioned and explained to you?? It was at this point I really had to hold in the huge laugh I wanted to let burst. He smiled and said to remember to give him a call if I ever needed some pro help. :rolleyes:



When he finally got in his car and left, I fell over laughing for the next 5 minutes. The only call he will get from me is one where I am laughing at him a lot. At the very least, he lightened the mood and inspired me to finish before another weirdo came out of the wood-work asking me questions!



And BTW, I gave #7 topped with S100 its first go. It looks good under the lights, but it is late here ( almost 9pm ) so no pics and sun evaluation until tomorrow.



Anyone else had a "pro" like this bloke?? :scared :shocked
 
A fine example of the difference between "professional" and "expert." It's unfortunate that they can't always be used interchangeably.
 
ZJ JIM 96 said:
A fine example of the difference between "professional" and "expert." It's unfortunate that they can't always be used interchangeably.
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*self-proclaimed expert :p
 
Detailers that know what they're doing really don't need a title. They let their skills do the talking for them.
 
I've talked to people like that. :lol



My favorite comment out of one of them was, "Oh I don't mess with that carnuaba crap..."
 
I love when people do that, i am a "pro", but i really like to consider myself to be a continually learning master of my trade. I strive to learn and grow as mush as possible, to achieve the best results possible. Even me as a pro, i have had encounters where the "other guy" stops by to see what you use, and how you go about what you are doing, and by the time the jack *** leaves, you are wondering how he is still in business with the lack of knowledge or talent. You should send him a picture of your car and tell him that it is what a Real detailer can do!
 
It's the same with any trade - 'professional' doesn't mean that the individual is any good at their job, it just means they try to make a living from it.
 
I'm always surprised when I speak with one of my friends, and they say that in their former lives, they were professional car detailers. A lot of times, they haven't heard of a lot of the products discussed on this board. I know one guy was using Liquid Glass to detail cars. I guess to be a "Pro" one just needs to clean cars for money, not actually do a good job.
 
For most people on this board detailing is a passion, or an obsession, depending on how you look at it. For most of these "pro detailers" its just a job.



This is the most informative site that I have encountered on the subject. The product reviews and exchange of knowledge is truly amazing. People on this board are very scientific in their approach, and provide excellent documentation and photographic evidence of their results.



I have been hooked since day one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Yes,that happened to me too a few years back and I did not appreciate it.What got me with this guy was that he came onto our business premises and walked up to the sacred garage where Dad and I park our cars to check them out,without our permission.Then he had the audacity to come into the office,ask for the owner of the red BMW to come out.I had no idea who he was and thought it was someone coming to give me a serve about the way I drive or something.

He came out with he was a professional detailer and he wanted to show me all the "problem areas".I am no Scottwax but I take huge pride in my car , love detailing it and it looks great to me.He got the royal heave ho out of our place.

I never saw his car but most "professional drivers" have less than immaculate cars.
 
Buffin, that's a ripper. I can't contain my laughter over this moron.

As I have said before, there are heaps of "Professional Detailers" in our wonderful country but for many of them it's simply a job. Most do not have the passion and dedication that you, I and all the great guys here do. The dealer installed swirls is just one of many things that so called Pro's are doing. I know of two detailers that ignore the fact that a car they are doing is in dire need of fallout removal.



Seriously though, I want to be continually learning, trying as many brands of professional products as possible and get to stage one day where I am a master of my trade.



"QUALITY HAS NO FINISH LINE" - PACER PRODUCTS AUSTRALIA
 
LWR, what "problem areas" did he proceed to show you? Im curious how he thought your car actually needed his "professional" help
 
I was initially amazed that he bothered to give me a card.

While I am no "expert" or "pro", my car is usually immaculate and I try to keep the swirls to a minimum ( made harder by a boss who borrows my car and then cleans it for me cos he knows I am fussy about that - only problem being that it takes me 4 or 5 hours to undo his coin-op cleaning effort - I havent got the heart to tell him though! ). I was honestly amazed by the simplistic nature of his questions about basic detailing. I was tempted to mention this web-site, but I think it may have been over his head!



Ah well, the world is made up of different people for a reason......not sure what it is but!
 
BlueRanger,

I never gave him the opportunity to show me and I feel no worse.It was his whole attitude that blew it for him.

I have had others clean my cars over the years but they just don't do it as well as I do or as I like because they regard it as a paying job and nothing else.There's no passion.Drop a pad or cloth and just use it again etc.Filthy sponges,crappy rags,putrid chamois and products,techniques,mindsets etc from the Jurassic period!
 
I feel that often the difference between a pro and an enthusiast is that in general the pro can hardly ever do the job as well as the enthusiast for the following reasons.



1. It's just a job, so they don't spend their own time researching methods & products like autopians do.

2. They have to earn money from it so they don't take the time that autopians can.

3. It's not their vehicle so they don't care quite as much

4. They are not totally obsessed like we are!
 
I would say that those reasons clearly establish WHY a professional detailer has to be excellent:







It's just a job- Real detailers need to offer the best products that do the job to continue to get customers

2. They have to earn money from it- all the more reason to do an amazing job because its your living

3. It's not their vehicle- Personally I care a bunch more about someone else's because that is what I get paid for, that is what refers me, etc. If my car looks just alright well, then I just beat myself up over.

4. They are not totally obsessed like we are- Maybe but look at the pros we have on this board.



I think that whatever profession you study you'll find a lot of ignorance, laziness, etc. It just so happens that we love detailing and when we encounter the horrible detailers it makes us want to go crazy.
 
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