Is ONR your favorite wash product?

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lakinui

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Which to you like best and why? Currently using Eagle One and Meguiar's wash products. Want a wash that won't strip the wax. Looking to switch to ONR based on what I've already heard.
 
First of all, since there have been some complaints about this lately, you do realize this is the Professional Detailing Forum? Your question doesn't really seem to pertain to Professional Detailing, unless you are trying to change your business from a conventional wash to a rinseless one.



Which brings me to my second point--you do realize that you are not comparing apples to apples with the products you use now and ONR? That the products you use now are conventional washes, while ONR is a rinseless product?
 
AeroCleanse said:
I don't use anything but ONR now.
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Same here except for the rare occasion that I run across a vehicle that has mud caked all over it-which might happen a couple times a year. If I had to go back to traditional washing on every car I clean, I'd probably quit the business.
 
Scottwax said:
Same here except for the rare occasion that I run across a vehicle that has mud caked all over it-which might happen a couple times a year. If I had to go back to traditional washing on every car I clean, I'd probably quit the business.
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My questions Scott from someone who has never used onr on a full detail. How are you cleaning engines, wheels, and tires with onr? How are you cleaning back inside wheels? How about wheel well arches? How do you degrease a motor or door jams with onr? I can see onr for a quick simple paint clean up. I truthfully can't see anyone doing In depth detailing with it. Please understand Scott Im not here to start issues about this nor do I want to get into a big debate either. I had just never used it. Im convinced it just can't be used for everything. now my next ? is Would you seriously quit this business if you didn't have this?
 
bufferbarry said:
My questions Scott from someone who has never used onr on a full detail. How are you cleaning engines, wheels, and tires with onr? How are you cleaning back inside wheels? How about wheel well arches? How do you degrease a motor or door jams with onr? I can see onr for a quick simple paint clean up. I truthfully can't see anyone doing In depth detailing with it. Please understand Scott Im not here to start issues about this nor do I want to get into a big debate either. I had just never used it. Im convinced it just can't be used for everything. now my next ? is Would you seriously quit this business if you didn't have this?
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I love ONR too, but align my beliefs with bufferbarry as well. I've had success with an ONR wash on a freshly waxed car, or a car that's not *really* dirty. Yet I have a hard time believing that one's experience claying a dirty/beater car after an ONR wash will be quivalent to claying after a wet wash.:bolt
 
bufferbarry said:
My questions Scott from someone who has never used onr on a full detail. How are you cleaning engines, wheels, and tires with onr? How are you cleaning back inside wheels? How about wheel well arches? How do you degrease a motor or door jams with onr? I can see onr for a quick simple paint clean up. I truthfully can't see anyone doing In depth detailing with it. Please understand Scott Im not here to start issues about this nor do I want to get into a big debate either. I had just never used it. Im convinced it just can't be used for everything. now my next ? is Would you seriously quit this business if you didn't have this?
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I also would echo these questions on how a rinseless wash would work.



That said, most vehicles I see are caked with mud, since we have a lot of dirt roads here. Not to mention the environment is excessively dusty as well. Plus the winter muck. Perhaps in my specific area, a rinseless wash just doesn't make any sense.
 
bufferbarry said:
My questions Scott from someone who has never used onr on a full detail. How are you cleaning engines, wheels, and tires with onr? How are you cleaning back inside wheels? How about wheel well arches? How do you degrease a motor or door jams with onr? I can see onr for a quick simple paint clean up. I truthfully can't see anyone doing In depth detailing with it. Please understand Scott Im not here to start issues about this nor do I want to get into a big debate either. I had just never used it. Im convinced it just can't be used for everything. now my next ? is Would you seriously quit this business if you didn't have this?
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I've got several videos posted on youtube.



I don't normally detail engines due to liability issues, but the combination of Optimum Power Clean, ONR and a pesticide sprayer filled with water does a lot better job than you'd think. Works well on door jambs and fenderwells. ONR eats brake dust on regularly cleaned wheels. Power Clean helps on those that aren't cleaned regularly.



Yes, I would seriously quit the business if it wasn't for rinseless washes, I hate traditional washing that much. A lot of the cars I do are outside in the sun and there is no way to properly wash and dry a car conventionally without a huge risk of waterspots (or even using RO rinse water, stuff settling on paint while it dries-always windy here) under those conditions. No having to blast water out of body seams with an air compressor either. Plus, with ONR, I never have to worry about getting other cars wet when working in office parking lots or water runoff issues (although I don't believe there is any enforcement in the Dallas area).
 
Ive got a question about ONR as well. I've done about 5 or 6 cars with ONR and it seems that the relatively clean or well kept cars clean up with ONR and look amazing. The other cars with a bit more dirt on them (6 months without washing black, etc) still have a dirty look to them after an ONR wash.



Now this could just be oxidation or bonded contaminants but could this also be a result of the ONR not cleaning as well as a conventional wash? I mean the paint feels clean to the touch, and it won't come off onto a drying microfiber or with use of a QD. So would that mean it IS bonded contaminants and not a result of the wash?



Unfortunately, I didn't do a side by side wash which probably would answer my question.



So Scottwax or other ONR converts, have you ever noticed any difference in the paint cleanliness after an ONR wash vs a conventional wash?
 
dheath said:
Ive got a question about ONR as well. I've done about 5 or 6 cars with ONR and it seems that the relatively clean or well kept cars clean up with ONR and look amazing. The other cars with a bit more dirt on them (6 months without washing black, etc) still have a dirty look to them after an ONR wash.



Now this could just be oxidation or bonded contaminants but could this also be a result of the ONR not cleaning as well as a conventional wash? I mean the paint feels clean to the touch, and it won't come off onto a drying microfiber or with use of a QD. So would that mean it IS bonded contaminants and not a result of the wash?



Unfortunately, I didn't do a side by side wash which probably would answer my question.



So Scottwax or other ONR converts, have you ever noticed any difference in the paint cleanliness after an ONR wash vs a conventional wash?
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Never had that issue. But if a car hasn't been washed in 6 months it needs more attention that just a wash no matter what, in order to look its best.
 
I used ONR and QEW for years when I lived in apartments and had a ton of success with them. Out of the two, I liked QEW better because the dirt would rinse off in the water, instead of clinging and staining my washing towels.



Now that I own a home, I enjoy being outside, using the hose and doing a traditional wash. I don't think it's any better or worse than ONR, I just enjoy it more. I agree with Scottwax, it is more work. I have been using DG 901 for traditional washes and love it.
 
I really enjoy using ONR. Still perfecting my technique but it's honestly a lot of fun. The look on people's faces is priceless too! I am getting more utility out of ONR's dilution of clay bar lubricant and quick detailer than the actual wash itself though. In any case, this product kept me in business over the winter as I was able to wash cars in the garage. It also resists freezing a little better too.



For maintenance washes, I really enjoyed Optimum Car Wash. It was super slick, cleaned well and left a distinct shine. Right now I am using Maxi-Suds and Citrus Wash & Gloss for my washing needs because I like to try new things, and those two washes came highly recommended.
 
I'm using ONR for cleaning the wheels of certain vehicles in-between regular washes, and for mid-detail cleanups. I've even recommended it to a few people in my Jag Club, including the owner of the MKII I corrected. So I *am* finding a few more uses for it than I had previously.



But for my regular washes I'm still using Griot's Car Wash through the foamgun.
 
Scottwax said:
What is really priceless is going back to that customer's house and seeing a gallon or quart of ONR in their garage. :eek:
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LOL! Or getting a call that goes something like this "Hello, you washed my car with this blue stuff...can I buy some off you?"



Makes you feel like a drug dealer or something, hahaha! :chuckle:
 
I had a neighbor walking with his kids, stop and ask me how I was washing my car so thoroughly without a hose. He also asked about the pleasant smell of ONR. I gave him a quick lesson on how to use ONR and I think he is sold on it.
 
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