Is it an absolute fact

rabbi

The Whaler Loves Detail City
that Chemical Guys products are the same as Adam's products? I've read this on at least one other site but can't recall if it's ever been proven.
 
You are very underworded and overstated today. Well, not over stated, but significantly stated.
I've never used either.
 
Don't know??? Adam's product worked alright. Not great... but not horrible either. Have never used Chemical Guy's products.

Would that be bad? How does one find out about these things?
 
Buy sample kits of each and do some side by side testing.

Also, some guys over at Autopia have tried CG vs. a few different brands with some interesting findings...You'd have to PM them though.
 
While I have not used many of the Chemical Guys products, I can say that I have used some that are similar to Adam's, as well as a few other name brand products that are highly touted on internet message boards. Are they the same or not? I'm not 100% sure. What I do know is that relabeling/rebranding/etc. is a very big part of a lot of products that we buy and use on a daily basis (not just for detailing). It's just business, plain and simple.

What I do not understand is why some people wanted to beat a dead horse about it on the internet and slander company's names with no proof positive. I have used Adam's products, some of them I liked, some of them I did not. Same goes with a lot of the other brands we talk about on here. I don't quite understand why it feels so "taboo-like" to mention Chemical Guys or why every post about their products turns into a "they make this or that for so-and-so discussion" (war), but the stuff I have tried from them was okay, and their prices are very reasonable.
 
cwcad said:
Have never used Chemical Guy's products.

...I wouldn't be so sure about that. :naughty It is probably more accurate to say that you have never used any Chemical Guy's branded products. Not that it really matters. My car couldn't care less what is on the label of the product that made it look so good.
 
Who knows? Bulk chemical companies could be buying popular products and then knocking them off with cheaper ingredients. Kind of like "Designer Imposters". Unless we see invoices and checks between various companies with supposed business to business relationships, we have no substantial proof of any theories at all. You want to prove something to me? Don't show me a bottle of car wax, show me where money has changed hands between companies and I will consider that an absolute fact.

I'm sure Pepsi could make Pepsi taste like Coke and I'm sure that Coke could copy Pepsi as well. I know they share many of the same ingredients so it wouldn't be hard at all. Same with with car care products, I found a car wash at a car show a few years ago that I really loved that smelled like bananas and it had awesome suds and it cleaned very well. I took a sample to a company and they matched it with about 99% accuracy within 45 minutes.

We know that there are similar products on the market, we know that some may even be the same, just under different labels and we also know that some companies just flat out copy each other trying to jump on the bandwagon and get a piece of the action.

Just be careful what you assume if you do not know ALL of the facts.
 
Not sure, probably only a handful. I had heard at one time or another one in CO is a major source for some of the brands we are familar with.
 
GSRstilez said:
Sounds possible, but there again, how would we ever know that is an absolute fact?
I guess I really don't have a concern about who makes what, just how it works.

Charles
 
Nine??? LOL! There are three actual and successful car wax manufacturers within 50 miles of my house!

Four Star Products - Bradenton, FL
Mark Supply - Venice, FL
Quality Industrial Chemicals - St. Petersburg, FL

Are you saying that 33% of ALL the car wax manufactures in the United States are located in my backyard?

I think it would be correct to say "nine that you know of" and not nine total.
 
Jngrbrdman said:
...I wouldn't be so sure about that. :naughty It is probably more accurate to say that you have never used any Chemical Guy's branded products.

I stand corrected. Your statement is more accurate. :wub: :hang: :bow
 
The Fuzz said:
Nine??? LOL! There are three actual and successful car wax manufacturers within 50 miles of my house!

Four Star Products - Bradenton, FL
Mark Supply - Venice, FL
Quality Industrial Chemicals - St. Petersburg, FL

Are you saying that 33% of ALL the car wax manufactures in the United States are located in my backyard?

I think it would be correct to say "nine that you know of" and not nine total.


I'll work on getting some back for that. It comes from a very credible source in the auto care industry.
 
Just do a Google search to find the 3 close to me. They are easy to find. I'm sure there are plenty more all over the United States, you just have to know where to look. Just call me the voice of reason and credibility.
 
Lets look at the fact that many companies small and large, have subcontractors or have private labeling done for them for one reson or another.
Whether it's chemicals, electronics, appliances or whatever it is a common business practice.

A side by side comparisons does not prove who made it, a chemical analisys (sp?) does not prove who made it.
People can say what they want, but private labeling and subcontracting is part of business and will be.

Use whomever you like, and for the reason you like, but unless you can come up with physical evidence (I.E. a purchase order, receipt, contract, etc.) or confirmation from either party, all you have is speculation.

JMHO
"J"
 
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