IPA or Eraser

KBsToy

KBsToy

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I am getting ready to do a application of Polish Angels Viking Coat and according to Travis Kent I should do a light polish and a wipe down before applying coating. That`s why I am asking which to use before coating.

Again THANKS !!!
 
If you don't have eraser, use the IPA. Both of your cars have hard clear (Vette and MB correct). I have mixed the IPA 50/50 with Distilled water and also used it at 15% IPA to distilled water. You want to be sure you get all the polishing oils off the surface.

I have used both and when I am done with the eraser I have, I will not re buy it. I see no difference other than smell.

Most important thing is let is all flash off before you apply the coating. Pay attention to the cure times and dwell time on the PA Viking coat application. I did 2 Layers.

What polish are you using?
 
I'd go with IPA. Eraser doesn't play well with some non-CarPro coatings - Pinnacle Black Label doesn't like it for one. Not knowing more about Polish Angel, you're just safer with an IPA wipe down.
 
JSFM35X said:
If you don't have eraser, use the IPA. Both of your cars have hard clear (Vette and MB correct). I have mixed the IPA 50/50 with Distilled water and also used it at 15% IPA to distilled water. You want to be sure you get all the polishing oils off the surface.

I have used both and when I am done with the eraser I have, I will not re buy it. I see no difference other than smell.

Most important thing is let is all flash off before you apply the coating. Pay attention to the cure times and dwell time on the PA Viking coat application. I did 2 Layers.

What polish are you using?
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PA invincible primer, I fiquried I would stay with same product line . Corvette will be getting the coating :)
THANKS !!
 
I'd consult with the coating manufacturer. Some manufacturers explicitly state not to use products like Eraser as it contains surfactants which could effect some coatings, and instead use pure IPA/water mixture to prep the surface after polishing.
 
Did u tell travis you were using their inv primer as the polish? Inv primer and cosmic from pa didnt require ipa wipe down according to travis
 
20115.0 said:
Did u tell travis you were using their inv primer as the polish? Inv primer and cosmic from pa didnt require ipa wipe down according to travis
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No. I sent email to travis this morning clarifying this question. DocPeanut said no on wiping down with invincible primer. This is my 1st time doing a coating and I would like to do it right especially on my toy............

Thanks for all input so far !!!
 
I'm always surprised when people find IPA effective for removing polishing oils, it just never worked all that great for me, at least not with products that have tenacious oils (e.g., M205). I do much better with TOL's PrepWash/AkyraClean (or however they spell it these days).
 
Accumulator said:
I'm always surprised when people find IPA effective for removing polishing oils, it just never worked all that great for me, at least not with products that have tenacious oils (e.g., M205). I do much better with TOL's PrepWash/AkyraClean (or however they spell it these days).
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The fact is that manufacturers specifically call out IPA before most coatings, therefore as a consumer, we should be able to assume that this is a required step that developed as a result of testing and analysis. If this is not the correct product to use, surely coating manufacturers would be recommending other sorts of solutions and/or manufacturing these other solutions themselves.

Just my $0.02
 
zmcgovern45- Except that the IPA simply didn't strip some oils for me, no question about it...just didn't work well. My guess what that while IPA might be the "stock answer" it might not always be the most effective solution in every case and I suppose it'd be unfair to expect every manufacturer to know what works (best)/doesn't with regard to products from other manfacturers.

I'm not hating on IPA, I keep a spray bottle of it on the shelf, works fine when I use my non-M205 polishes- E.g., HD Polish and polishes from Optimum strip away just fine with it prior to coating.
 
KBsToy said:
I am getting ready to do a application of Polish Angels Viking Coat and according to Travis Kent I should do a light polish and a wipe down before applying coating. That`s why I am asking which to use before coating.

Again THANKS !!!
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Man you work fast! Didn't you just order that stuff today??

:)
 
Accumulator said:
zmcgovern45- Except that the IPA simply didn't strip some oils for me, no question about it...just didn't work well. My guess what that while IPA might be the "stock answer" it might not always be the most effective solution in every case and I suppose it'd be unfair to expect every manufacturer to know what works (best)/doesn't with regard to products from other manfacturers.

I'm not hating on IPA, I keep a spray bottle of it on the shelf, works fine when I use my non-M205 polishes- E.g., HD Polish and polishes from Optimum strip away just fine with it prior to coating.
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I guess more of what I was eluding to was that if it was an issue, you would expect to hear more about it. Given that it is not a voiced concern by either manufacturers or consumers, it is likely a non-issue.

For instance, M205 is our most commonly used polish throughout the years, and we have never had a customer complain about coating life/durability, nor have I noticed any poor performance in my own long-term testing. Therefore I would imagine the surface is as clean as it needs to be for good performance after 1:1 IPA wipe down or Eraser wipe down. Sure there are stronger solvents out there, but it seems they simply aren't needed?

Is it also possible that the solvents in the coating may help to further clean the surface during application? Just thinking out loud.
 
KBsToy said:
No. I sent email to travis this morning clarifying this question. DocPeanut said no on wiping down with invincible primer. This is my 1st time doing a coating and I would like to do it right especially on my toy............

Thanks for all input so far !!!
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[FONT=&quot]Hey Ken,[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]If you use Primer, then you don’t need IPA. IPA would only be for using any other polish. I use Primer before Viking Coat simply because I like the results I get with it and not needing IPA. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Thanks,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]~Travis Kent
contact@polishangel.us
POLISHANGEL® USA[/FONT]
 
20115.0 said:
Did u tell travis you were using their inv primer as the polish? Inv primer and cosmic from pa didnt require ipa wipe down according to travis
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[FONT=&quot]Hey Ken,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If you use Primer, then you don’t need IPA. IPA would only be for using any other polish. I use Primer before Viking Coat simply because I like the results I get with it and not needing IPA. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Thanks,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]~Travis Kent
contact@polishangel.us
POLISHANGEL® USA[/FONT]
 
When Optimum came out with their 'Primer Polish" we were also told that we don't need to use IPA anymore. However, sometime later we were told to do an ONR wipe to make sure that there is no residue left on the paint. I still use IPA just to make sure. You should also do some type of wipe down before applying the coating.

KBsToy said:
Hey Ken,

If you use Primer, then you don’t need IPA. IPA would only be for using any other polish. I use Primer before Viking Coat simply because I like the results I get with it and not needing IPA.

Thanks,
~Travis Kent
contact@polishangel.us
POLISHANGEL® USA
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I just did a test on my car to see if IPA removes polishing oils. I polished my car with both M105 and some Menzerna polish. I then did a full foam and wash. I did an IPA wipe down on some sections. Then I hit both the IPA and non-IPA sections with a blast of steam. I could immediately see that the non-IPA section was loaded with oils and the areas where I did an IPA wipe down were oil free. So IPA worked great for me.
 
Accum- I am surprised to hear that. I use 50/50 IPA for all my wipe downs and have never had any issues of not removing the oils.
 
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