I want to switch to full menzerna line. I have questions

Camron882

Camron882

Swirl Slayer
So I've used Meg's 105/205 for a while now with great results with my foam and MF pads. I really want to get menzerna products to have 1 product I use, not Meg's to compound, chemical guys to seal ect. Please inform me of what I need from compound to seal and if I need new pads for jeweling. Thanks!!!!
 
I know this is not an answer to your question, but.......

Why one line exclusively?

I use different products from lots of different manufacturers. Each with a specific feel/look/end result that I am looking for.

In my opinion, a single manufacturer cannot do everything.
 
Camron882 said:
So I've used Meg's 105/205 for a while now with great results with my foam and MF pads. I really want to get menzerna products to have 1 product I use, not Meg's to compound, chemical guys to seal ect. Please inform me of what I need from compound to seal and if I need new pads for jeweling. Thanks!!!!
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Can you tell us what machine/s you are using with the Meguiars 105/205 compounds?

Are you looking for 1 product that can cut and finish down to almost LSP to LSP ready ?

What brand microfiber pads and foam pads have you been using ?

Dan F
 
Camron882 said:
So I've used Meg's 105/205 for a while now with great results with my foam and MF pads. I really want to get menzerna products to have 1 product I use, not Meg's to compound, chemical guys to seal ect. Please inform me of what I need from compound to seal and if I need new pads for jeweling. Thanks!!!!
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I know this isn't directly answering your question and is something you've probably already thought about. Merzerma makes great products and I wouldn't try to discourage you on their use. That said, I will throw this all the same. No one manufacturer makes the best of everything. This statement is even more relevant when "value" comes into the equation. Seems like you cheat yourself out of a lot of great products and the experience of using them by being loyal to only one brand. Just sayin'...

Best of luck. ;)
 
Camron882 said:
So I've used Meg's 105/205 for a while now with great results with my foam and MF pads. I really want to get menzerna products to have 1 product I use, not Meg's to compound, chemical guys to seal ect. Please inform me of what I need from compound to seal and if I need new pads for jeweling. Thanks!!!!
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Compound (with great finishing, can usually go to finishing polish right after) - Menzerna FG400

Polish (use for light one steps and/or those times when you need a middle step after compounding) Menzerna PF 2500

Final Polish (use after compound for maximum gloss) Menzerna SF4000

Seal Menzerna Powerlock

As far as "Jeweling", what is your current machine/process?
 
I use a porter cable xp, looking at a flex since I am getting more business with exotics and rough cars too. I just feel that one line will help me not feel so disorganized (Marine thing maybe). I have had GREAT results with the chemical guys MF pads, jeweling is with a little product (205) and the finishing MF pad. Just feel like I'm spending a lot of time trying to perfect with 205. I mainly want one line in my buffing cycle, I use other things for cleaning, wax, ect
 
LSP is chemical guys JETSEAL with liquid souveran or P21s depending on what event the customer is going to and color of car... Waiting for Füzion to go on sale
 
it would be nice to use one really good brand exclusively. advertising and purchasing supplies would be easier, and the possibility of good dealer discounts and support from the manufacturer would be an extra incentive. but in reality, you could be missing out on some other really good products from excellent manufacturers. especially with the rapid advances in new products and methods. the folks at ACC/PBMG always make me feel like a close, direct dealer no matter what i purchase.
 
Camron882 -

Thanks for the reply !

You didn't say what size pads you are using on the Porter Cable, so I will assume you are using smaller diameter (5") to get more pad rotation.

You speak of Jeweling - this is usually a 3rd step using a really fine compound - in the Menzerna line it would be PO106FA which has a cut of 2.5 out of 5, or PO85RD which has a cut of 1 out of 5.

In the real day-to-day world of Detailing in my experience, there are not as many times I will be paid to go that extra 3rd step, but, am already getting very close to that 3rd step with the newer products out today anyway..
I get this level of clarity because I am using Rotary Power with a zillion years of practice, so I know that this is not always the norm with the slower rotating, non-forced machine.

What makes/models/years of vehicles are you doing the most? Some products work better on hard or soft paints than others..

Certainly, Menzerna is and was developed years ago to be able to compound the new at the time - cerami-clear paint that Mercedes was using on their cars, and it can totally correct about anything out there in the German car world that I live in, the most..

But, as has already been said by many very knowledgeable people above, there are many options that perhaps can be thought about before you decide to lock yourself into 1 brand for everything..

For example, in my Shop, I have mostly used Meguiars 105/101/205, a few of the Menzerna products, the 3 great Optimum Technology products, and as of the last few months, a really great product from Sonax..

All have their place in my Shop and I will have to use my previous experiences and still run a couple of different products/pads, on every vehicle to determine what will work the best, fastest, and leave as much an LSP ready result as possible, to enable me to over-deliver to the Client, and still come in making good $$$ for the work.

Hope you can find what you like and make it work for your needs !
Dan F
 
Thanks for the reply. I love Meg's but since I've been dealing with Lamborghini, Porsche, FORD GT, and a Audi R8 coming, I wanted some menzerna. I don't let any car leave without a show car finish. I'm a perfectionist so it can't leave any other way. Can you PM me some products you think I should get to get away from mothers and OTC products besides Meg's?
 
I also finish side to side vs criss cross action. I found a better finished product, especially on black. I will post pics tomorrow so please come back to this thread mid day! First real black car was a 06 Gallardo
 
I love Menzerna polishes but they just aren't always the best product for the job. You are most likely going to be working with some very hard paint on those vehicles you mentioned. I don't think the Menzerna polishes are the best choice for the correction on those. I prefer to go with SMAT products on hard paints.

As others stated before, it is best to not limit your options. It is okay to have a set of go-to products but there will be times when those just aren't the best option.

Even today, on a car I have polished before, I was doing a light polish to refresh. I still tested 4 different products to determine what would provide the best results: Meg's 205, Menzerna Power Finish (2500), HD Polish & Optimum Hyper Polish. I'll bet if I tested those same products for the same purpose on several other cars each product would take a turn at stepping forward as the best option.
 
Reflectiveauto said:
Everything said above are very good answers but also know that Menzerna polishes dont like cold temps under 60 degs
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I agree, except FG400. I think FG functions better under 60 other wise it seems to dry up and even clump. Cooler panels mean less stick, depending on how much polish is used of course.

I carry the full line of menzerna from FG400 through Po115C, they always pull off amazing results. That said... Menzerna is not always the easiest to work with especially if you have options, it can be tricky at times. Once you have it down though your finish wont be beat. It does love german clear coats though :)
 
Reflectiveauto said:
Everything said above are very good answers but also know that Menzerna polishes dont like cold temps under 60 degs
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I have used Menzerna polishes in temperatures as cold as 30 degrees. The oil can get a little thick but the secret is to put a little heat into the polishing process. Increase your pressure slightly to warm up the panel and they perform flawlessly :)
 
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