I take it that Polish Angel is the latest and greatest...?
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BadgerRivFan
Keep the Blues Alive!
shortspark
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You might want to read a thread I started here recently: http://www.autopia.org/forums/car-detailing/186465-pa.html. There are many, many other threads talking about PA as well and obviously you have found some of them. Virtually all of them are positive. I am impressed with their quick shipping (from Germany no less) and their customer attention with tracking, updates and other services. This alone tells me it is a high quality company and that is also reflected in their products. The testimonials you find here and other detailing forums speak for themselves, as do the pictures submitted by posters of their cars after applying PA products.
In my case and situation (I am using PA on a Mercedes CLS with "Diamond White" paint), the combination of Snow White and High Gloss was a winner. They went up against my favorite German combo for this paint (Sonax Polymer Net Shield and Brilliant Shine) and performed better both in looks and application. The appearance was more pleasing to my eye using PA but not by much. The big advantage was in the ease of application and removal of the products. The PA products went on smooth and left the finish the same way - looks and feel were smooth as silk. The Sonax products were always a bit "grabby" to me both in applying and removing the products. Other people have found the same thing although no one complains about Sonax longevity of protection and appearance.
I have also concluded that PA is the "latest and the greatest", as you put it, at this particular time. But PA is not the holy grail of detailing by any means, rather a "flavor of the day". I say that because I can assure you that tomorrow or at some point in the future another brand or some new innovation will come along and it will be crowned the "latest and the greatest". This quality progression and constant improvement in wax and sealant technology will always be the case. How long PA protects your paint is still in question from a personal standpoint (I will let you know in a few months) but for now it repels water beautifully and looks like a million bucks, at least on my "Diamond White" paint. I can`t ask for more than that.
Having said all that I must place an asterisk next to Polish Angel and there is a caveat - price. The PA line is very expensive as far as detailing products go. PA is very good in performance but is a good buy? Frankly, I do not think that PA is the kind of product you want on a daily driver that is ten years old, runs through the mud and is washed once in the spring and once in the fall - if you know what I mean. In that case I would say it is not a good buy at all. On a brand new Mercedes that cost nearly $90,000, is garage kept and not driven every day then I would say yes, simply because money is not an object with this type of car. If money is an object and you have a detailing budget, then I would suggest instead some of the numerous outstanding products in the detailing market today (most of which can be found right here at Autopia) that perform beautifully and are much less expensive.
In my case and situation (I am using PA on a Mercedes CLS with "Diamond White" paint), the combination of Snow White and High Gloss was a winner. They went up against my favorite German combo for this paint (Sonax Polymer Net Shield and Brilliant Shine) and performed better both in looks and application. The appearance was more pleasing to my eye using PA but not by much. The big advantage was in the ease of application and removal of the products. The PA products went on smooth and left the finish the same way - looks and feel were smooth as silk. The Sonax products were always a bit "grabby" to me both in applying and removing the products. Other people have found the same thing although no one complains about Sonax longevity of protection and appearance.
I have also concluded that PA is the "latest and the greatest", as you put it, at this particular time. But PA is not the holy grail of detailing by any means, rather a "flavor of the day". I say that because I can assure you that tomorrow or at some point in the future another brand or some new innovation will come along and it will be crowned the "latest and the greatest". This quality progression and constant improvement in wax and sealant technology will always be the case. How long PA protects your paint is still in question from a personal standpoint (I will let you know in a few months) but for now it repels water beautifully and looks like a million bucks, at least on my "Diamond White" paint. I can`t ask for more than that.
Having said all that I must place an asterisk next to Polish Angel and there is a caveat - price. The PA line is very expensive as far as detailing products go. PA is very good in performance but is a good buy? Frankly, I do not think that PA is the kind of product you want on a daily driver that is ten years old, runs through the mud and is washed once in the spring and once in the fall - if you know what I mean. In that case I would say it is not a good buy at all. On a brand new Mercedes that cost nearly $90,000, is garage kept and not driven every day then I would say yes, simply because money is not an object with this type of car. If money is an object and you have a detailing budget, then I would suggest instead some of the numerous outstanding products in the detailing market today (most of which can be found right here at Autopia) that perform beautifully and are much less expensive.
They make some really good products. They are expensive. Can you make your car look great with them?-YES.
Do I like to use PA Prouct and try new ones? - Yes
You can make your car look very, very respectable, with (forgive me Ray- products from Auto zone) if you know what your doing.
I think the boutique products (items not at big box and chains) give us the edge. Look at Ron`s Trophy Chest. He competes and wins. His skill comes first, and then the products edge out the competition. IMHO-
You don`t need polish angel to get your car looking good but I enjoy trying the best I can afford and seeing what its all about. I don`t drink, or do drugs, so this is a relatively inexpensive hobby even when done to excess. (convincing myself). I even delude myself into thinking its exercise
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PA products I used that I would buy again for specific purposes:
Paladium
Super Sport
Engine
Bella Clean
Charisma
Carnuba Artz white alabaster
Cosmic Spritz -just tried this weekend
Items I want to try
Hi Gloss
their polishes
their window sealant
their interior dash product
their tire dressing Honey
Do I like to use PA Prouct and try new ones? - Yes
You can make your car look very, very respectable, with (forgive me Ray- products from Auto zone) if you know what your doing.
I think the boutique products (items not at big box and chains) give us the edge. Look at Ron`s Trophy Chest. He competes and wins. His skill comes first, and then the products edge out the competition. IMHO-
You don`t need polish angel to get your car looking good but I enjoy trying the best I can afford and seeing what its all about. I don`t drink, or do drugs, so this is a relatively inexpensive hobby even when done to excess. (convincing myself). I even delude myself into thinking its exercise
. PA products I used that I would buy again for specific purposes:
Paladium
Super Sport
Engine
Bella Clean
Charisma
Carnuba Artz white alabaster
Cosmic Spritz -just tried this weekend
Items I want to try
Hi Gloss
their polishes
their window sealant
their interior dash product
their tire dressing Honey
rlmccarty2000
Active member
Let your experiences (and your wallet) guide you. Purchase a bottle. Some of it I like and some of it I dont, just like every other brand out there. Before PA, Gyeon was the hot brand. The detailing scene changes very quickly. I still say perfect your surface and whatever(mostly) you put on top of it will look great.
We should probably have a poll here on which step is the most important. If you read the majority of the posts you would believe the LSP is the most important product. If your canvas is imperfect, your LSP won`t be able to hide it. Actually most of the new LSPs will magnifiy defects, where wax would fill and hide some defects.
We should probably have a poll here on which step is the most important. If you read the majority of the posts you would believe the LSP is the most important product. If your canvas is imperfect, your LSP won`t be able to hide it. Actually most of the new LSPs will magnifiy defects, where wax would fill and hide some defects.
What are you trying to accomplish? and with what ?
Show car?
Daily Driver?
Swirl elimination?
Have you used and do you own a DA polisher?
what you over all comfort level in performing :
1. 2 bucket wash?
2. decon both manual and chemical?
3. Any paint correction experience?
4. How much time to you want to invest in the whole process in hours.-Do you have a garage to work in so your out of the weather?
4A. Do you have or have access to a paint thickness gauge?
5. What is the make, condition of the car/paint? Pictures under bright light would help. Do you know the cars history as in the repainted areas.
If you list your location in Wisco perhaps a fellow Autopian can push you through the learning curve with some demonstration/training. Its how I started in correction with the Vette Master General ----Ron
If you tell me where you want to go, I will give you a good, better , best product listing that I think can help you get to where your going.
Price it out and then you decide what you want/need. I post it here for others to comment on, even though I hate criticism.
Show car?
Daily Driver?
Swirl elimination?
Have you used and do you own a DA polisher?
what you over all comfort level in performing :
1. 2 bucket wash?
2. decon both manual and chemical?
3. Any paint correction experience?
4. How much time to you want to invest in the whole process in hours.-Do you have a garage to work in so your out of the weather?
4A. Do you have or have access to a paint thickness gauge?
5. What is the make, condition of the car/paint? Pictures under bright light would help. Do you know the cars history as in the repainted areas.
If you list your location in Wisco perhaps a fellow Autopian can push you through the learning curve with some demonstration/training. Its how I started in correction with the Vette Master General ----Ron
If you tell me where you want to go, I will give you a good, better , best product listing that I think can help you get to where your going.
Price it out and then you decide what you want/need. I post it here for others to comment on, even though I hate criticism
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RaysWay
Autopia Specialist
Civicclutch
New member
Oh ya another Wisconsinite
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What are you trying to accomplish? and with what ?
Show car?
Daily Driver?
Swirl elimination?
Have you used and do you own a DA polisher?
what you over all comfort level in performing :
1. 2 bucket wash?
2. decon both manual and chemical?
3. Any paint correction experience?
4. How much time to you want to invest in the whole process in hours.-Do you have a garage to work in so your out of the weather?
4A. Do you have or have access to a paint thickness gauge?
5. What is the make, condition of the car/paint? Pictures under bright light would help. Do you know the cars history as in the repainted areas.
If you list your location in Wisco perhaps a fellow Autopian can push you through the learning curve with some demonstration/training. Its how I started in correction with the Vette Master General ----Ron
If you tell me where you want to go, I will give you a good, better , best product listing that I think can help you get to where your going.
Price it out and then you decide what you want/need. I post it here for others to comment on, even though I hate criticism
OK...
Not daily driver - but driven quite a bit - 3-4 times a week.
I like the show car shine/look - I usually California car duster it off and use a quick-detailer before taking it out every time.
I have it professionally detailed/paint corrected if needed - once a year - and then take care of the car myself after that.
Never used a DA polisher.
I do use the two bucket wash method.
As much time as needed - yes I have a garage.
No access to a paint thickness gauge.
2014 Audi A8 in Brilliant Black paint color (not metallic) - car`s paint is in great condition and has never been repainted.
I like the deep, dark, wet, glass look of the black paint - and not the so-called "sterile" shiny look.
Hope this helps!
Need any other info - let me know.
Thanks!
Accumulator
Well-known member
pologuy- Utterly off-topic 
but I`m surprised that you`re able to CCD/QD it between washes without marring it.
but I`m surprised that you`re able to CCD/QD it between washes without marring it.
Old Pirate
AMG Classic Car Detailing
California car duster? I remember them in the 70`s when someone copy it and brought it over from the far east where it was being use alot over there. Everyone even here love the idea....IDEA.... but as time gone by and alot of detailers and regular folks who love to clean and mantain their rides and customers found more new products coming about in the mid 80`s ( Boutique ) and the car cleaning/ polishing business took off! Companies like Meguiar`s, Klasse, Apple, CMA, PBMG, and others have lead the way that with today`s products from new companies are improving the way we all protect the finishes of cars and also, the interiors that there`s always a new product line that will be the so called ( latest and greatest ) one around. A few of us have been seeing this for many yrs and still there will be new ones coming down the line. One thing to remember is that you enjoy what your doing and your customers love the results you give them after you do some magic to their baby`s. Enjoy the products out there that you love and never mind the so call latest product.....
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h34r:Hey, I resemble that remark!!!
Pologuy:
Glad to see your are using the services of a professional detailer to keep your vehicle looking great.
Finding a competent "pro" detailer that you like and charges (monetary cost) accordingly to your budget (IE, is a good value) is nearly impossible. It`s a recommendation I make constantly to anyone who chooses not to invest the time or money in detailing equipment and car-care chemicals, but wishes to have their vehicle look like those posted in this forum. It`s the adage of, "If you want something done right, pay a professional to do it."
Also glad that you follow through with your wash maintenance regiment on regular basis.
I also suggest ditching the California Car Duster. My suggestion is to use one of the many rinseless wash products or quick detailers and a premium microfiber to remove minor dust-and-dirt accumulations between 2-bucket washes. Garry Dean`s Infinite Use Detail Juice (GD-IUDJ or just IUDJ) or Optimum Polymer Technology`s No-Rinse Wash-and-Shine (OPT-NR or just ONR) comes to mind.
JustJesus
New member
Whoa. Gyeon *WAS* the hot brand?!?! Did I completely miss it when it came and went? I thought it was still sort of new? How long did I nap for ?!?
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Ronkh
Wax Waster
Whoa. Gyeon *WAS* the hot brand?!?! Did I completely miss it when it came and went? I thought it was still sort of new? How long did I nap for ?!?
Still is
JustJesus
New member
Thank you, Ron. I still have some Gyeon stuff to try out. Interested in their drying towel. And i might use Tire on my wife`s car, to see how it fairs in a "regular" environment.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Love the tire
JustJesus
New member
I liked applying it! (to my Cherokee)
BudgetPlan1
Active member
If`n ya pick one of those up, wash it separately from things you don`t want tinted blue. Love their BaldWipe and PolishWipe towels but have to wash by themselves (even after a few uses) as they bleed blue when washing/drying.
JustJesus
New member
THANKS!!!
I forget what other towels came in the kit, but I know at least one of those did come along with the drying towel. I`ll wash `em separate or with other blue(ish) towels. :bigups