Hose shutoff... anyone used Adams-type Dramm shutoff?

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Concourswanna b

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Thinking of ordering some of these for my wash setup... is this photo correct? I thought I read somewhere that the flow is "on" when the lever is horizontal, not in line with the fitting. If this photo is not correct, I'm not buying 'em. Seems like the washing with the lever sticking out is scratch-city...

Maybe "new design" refers to lever position when on.

Thanks if anyone knows...



Might just order one to try it.



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They sell damn near the same thing for 1/4 the price at your local home depot or lowes, I use 3 with no problems what so ever.

But, if your a die hard adams fan, go for it.
 
WhyteWizard said:
I've had one for years and it's worked very well. I'd shop though.



Robert
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Thanks Robert. After having gone through tons of cheap hoses, I bought the Adams one when it was available, but now I need a couple good shutoffs. Those plastic ones are frustrating.
 
I got the Dramm one off Amazon and really like it. It is a full flow model unlike most of the Gilmours sold at HD/Lowe's.



 
While I'm happy with the (full-flow) Gilmours, which I find absolutely perfect with the exception of their mediocre durability, I wouldn't really worry about bumping the vehicle with the Dramm.



Reasons why I wouldn't expect a problem:



- your hand being there to operate the valve

- the positioning of the valve in relation to the panel being washed (for me the most comfortable position is *not* such as to be likely to contact the vehicle)

- the length of the foamgun, having the whole thing between you and the paint
 
colinpd137 said:
They sell damn near the same thing for 1/4 the price at your local home depot or lowes...
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I you're referring to the Gilmours and Orbits they sell at Depot and Lowes, I have to disagree. They don't even come close to the Dramm (at least the old design Dramm that I have, I haven't tried the new design yet).



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Orbit
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The Dramm is heftier, more precisely machined, built with better materials and easier to operate (thanks to the long handle and superior seal material). They're made in the USA too.





Accumulator said:
While I'm happy with the (full-flow) Gilmours...
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None of the Gilmours I've seen have been full flow. The Gilmours, Orbits and Nelsons I've seen have maybe 3/8" orifices (by eyeball, I haven't measured them).



I wouldn't quite call the Dramm full-flow either. But at 1/2" it's substantially larger than the others. (Hint, if the barrel of the valve is the same size at the hose it can't be full flow. Full flow means orifice => inlet pipe inside diameter.)





Accumulator said:
...with the exception of their mediocre durability...
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I find the least reliable point on the Gilmours, Orbits and Nelsons is the (way too) little screw that holds the lever on. I always (blue) Loctite them before putting them into service.





With all that love for the Dramm, I still have a bunch of Orbits, because they're cheap, light and small.



The big lever on the Dramm can also interfere with some quick connects that have large plastic collars.





The Nelson sort of falls in between the Orbits and the Dramm.

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pc
 
Ah ha!



Gilmour's version of a full flow. (note the honkin' big body)

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I haven't found anybody selling these around here. might have to order one.





pc
 
Everyone, thanks for all your input on this... that's why this is a great place to be.



I've got a Dramm on the way via Amazon.



I'm going to see how it works in-line with the Griot's quick connects, Karcher washer, foam gun, etc.



Next up is an Eley Corp. hose reel... on my list for years.
 
Concourswanna b said:
Next up is an Eley Corp. hose reel... on my list for years.
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Same here, finally made the decision about 2 yrs ago and I definitely regret waiting to make the purchase. The design and engineering is without peer. It's kinda one of these "seeing is believing" deals :cool:
 
the other pc said:
Gilmour's version of a full flow. (note the honkin' big body)

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Gilmour also has a quik connect version of their full flow valves. (I'm "married" to these quik connects.) The Gilmour P/N is 29QFF. Maybe $10:



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Same here, finally made the decision about 2 yrs ago and I definitely regret waiting to make the purchase. The design and engineering is without peer. It's kinda one of these "seeing is believing" deals
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Cool. Eley seems to still care about making a quality product. Sometimes I regret buying expensive stuff, sometimes it's worth it. This one seems like it's worth it.
 
Yeah, their stuff is nice. Really worth every penny, IME. You've got to consider it a lifetime tool/purchase.
 
I own a greenhouse and the ONLY thing we use is the Dramm product. It's the only thing that holds up to be used, dropped, used, dropped, etc. They aren't the cheapest, but they are the best. And obviously I use them on all my detailing hoses as well.
 
Will be grabbing a dramm in the future. Anyone have solid referrals for quick connects? I've overused my gilmour bought @ Lowes.
 
Dramm makes a nice, aluminum version of those too. Great for reducing over-all weight. You can get he lever-shutoffs in aluminum full-flow also. Amazon has all of that stuff.
 
I just bought another one of these from Growers Solutions on Amazon. Unfortunately the bag arrived but the valve didn't. I sent them an email Saturday night and they shipped a replacement Monday morning. Growers Solutions



This is one of those things I have to keep a spare for, not because I expect it to fail because I don't but because I like the way it works so much I don't want to have to be without it if the one I have gets lost, stolen, or given away to a friend.



Robert
 
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